The Wilder Excuses Begin

[Ron Swanson]

Don't feel like reading all of this and all the articles. Was the offer of 88 million plus upside for AJ and 12 million flat for Wilder the only offer?

You must have read something on the matter. Else how did you also come up with this nonsense $100m number?

Didn't read a thing, there's just a bunch of boxing channels saying these numbers. I don't doubt they're wrong that's why I'm trying to find out what offers have been made.

FTR I think this fight makes far more than 100 million. But after TV companies take their splits 100 million did seem a dangerous guarantee

How do you figure it makes far more than 100 million? And what TV splits are you talking about?

Well, getting 50 million in PPV in USA is rather easy, less than 1 million buys. I would imagine the biggest heavyweight fight since 2003 tops 1 million buys. Wilder has gotten great ratings for years fighting bums.

We keep hearing about all this UK money so if it is what it is billed to be one would expect the more popular AJ to produce equal buy money or greater in the UK.

Add sponsors, TV rights around the world, gate and this pushes well past 100 million.

Not sure how UK TV money is split but in the US the providers take half.

[Silkeyjoe]

Hearn and AJ said in an IFL interview today that if they were offered 50 million from Wilder for the fight (flat fee) they would take it.

Hearn also said that he believes the flat fee offer he made Wilder was 30 - 35% and claims his calculations are usually very accurate.

In my opinion Wilder should take the offer. Hes not bringing the crowd, TV deals or the money.

[Ron Swanson]

What was the flat fee offered, the rumored 12 million?

Feel like I’m trying to get juice from a stone 😂

[Primo Carnera]

What was the flat fee offered, the rumored 12 million?

Feel like I’m trying to get juice from a stone 😂

Right, there’s no point telling you because you’ll believe who you want to believe.
Shelly Finkel said $12.5 million and HE SAID the fight is worth $100 million. (So put the fight on then!)
Which is where I’m guessing you got your “AJ is gonna get $88million” from presumably. Funny , but NOBODY has mentioned that.
All Hearn said was that the offer they gave was 30-35% of what he thought the fight is worth. Hearn did not tell all and sundry a figure because he negotiates properly.
Finkel then said they would make a counter offer in 48 hours. Naturally 48 hours came and went with no counter offer. All they said was they would accept 40%. But 40% of what??
If the fight makes the money Finkel thinks, then put the money up and make the fight in the States! Funnily enough that option hasn’t been mentioned by Finkel.
Like I said , believe what you want to believe. There you go. Don’t mention it.

[Batman]

Hearn and AJ said in an IFL interview today that if they were offered 50 million from Wilder for the fight (flat fee) they would take it.

Hearn also said that he believes the flat fee offer he made Wilder was 30 - 35% and claims his calculations are usually very accurate.

In my opinion Wilder should take the offer. Hes not bringing the crowd, TV deals or the money.

That's just Eddie chatting shit, if he believed that the flat offer was going to be 30/35% then he would have offered 30/35% because that would have sounded more attractive

[Fenster]

Hearn and AJ said in an IFL interview today that if they were offered 50 million from Wilder for the fight (flat fee) they would take it.

Hearn also said that he believes the flat fee offer he made Wilder was 30 - 35% and claims his calculations are usually very accurate.

In my opinion Wilder should take the offer. Hes not bringing the crowd, TV deals or the money.

That's just Eddie chatting shit, if he believed that the flat offer was going to be 30/35% then he would have offered 30/35% because that would have sounded more attractive

He said the percentage from the start but people like you (no disrespect, mate) were saying why doesn't he tell us what % money it represents.

From day one he said the fight is worth 40-50 million and Wilder is worth about 20-30%.

It's utterly laughable that naive fans believe the guy offering some basic 101 promotion and standard reality is the bullshitter. As has been explained in this thread already, we have past AJ promotions to gauge the figures by, especially the Wlad fight. If it makes more it makes more but this is the basic ballpark.

[Batman]

Hearn and AJ said in an IFL interview today that if they were offered 50 million from Wilder for the fight (flat fee) they would take it.

Hearn also said that he believes the flat fee offer he made Wilder was 30 - 35% and claims his calculations are usually very accurate.

In my opinion Wilder should take the offer. Hes not bringing the crowd, TV deals or the money.

That's just Eddie chatting shit, if he believed that the flat offer was going to be 30/35% then he would have offered 30/35% because that would have sounded more attractive

He said the percentage from the start but people like you (no disrespect, mate) were saying why doesn't he tell us what % money it represents.

From day one he said the fight is worth 40-50 million and Wilder is worth about 20-30%.

It's utterly laughable that naive fans believe the guy offering some basic 101 promotion and standard reality is the bullshitter. As has been explained in this thread already, we have past AJ promotions to gauge the figures by, especially the Wlad fight. If it makes more it makes more but this is the basic ballpark.

I haven't heard him say that it is worth 40/50 million, I wasn't actually having a pop at Eddie, it's just part of the negotiations, he isn't going to go in and start with his best offer, he wants the best final outcome for AJ hence why he made a flat offer rather than a percentage.

[Primo Carnera]

@Ron Swanson and everyone else. everything think you need to know on this fight in the statement below.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...wilder--127348

[Ron Swanson]

@Ron Swanson and everyone else. everything think you need to know on this fight in the statement below.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...wilder--127348

Crap offer, appreciate the info. Seems the fight will happen exactly when Eddie told us it would happen a year ago, in 2019. Desperately hoping to be wrong but nobody accepts 12.5 for this fight

[Beanz]

""People don't understand the simple economics and the reality of the situation. One guy is earning $2.5 million dollars and the other is earning ten times as much. ...."


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