The Wilder Excuses Begin

[Ron Swanson]

Do people pretend to not know boxing contracts or do they genuinely not know?

I mean, is it a secret they are done on percentages splits?

Is it a secret the bigger fighter makes the offers?

[Primo Carnera]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.

[Primo Carnera]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.

[Batman]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.

you can say that again

[Ron Swanson]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.

Say it all you want, it’s just wrong. Why not make it simple and offer him 35%. You and I both know the answer. FTR Wilder has responded offering the flat 50 AJ said he wanted. Bet AJ doesn’t accept, why, we both know why, not because AJ is scared, because NOBODY accepts a flat fee when a percentage is worth more

[Primo Carnera]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.

Say it all you want, it’s just wrong. Why not make it simple and offer him 35%. You and I both know the answer. FTR Wilder has responded offering the flat 50 AJ said he wanted. Bet AJ doesn’t accept, why, we both know why, not because AJ is scared, because NOBODY accepts a flat fee when a percentage is worth more

Flat 50 ? Did I miss this? I may have done. Link please . Thanks.

Regarding the “offer him 35%” smokescreen, read my post And stop choosing to ignore it. (I’ve put it in bold to help you. Don’t mention it.)

[Primo Carnera]

Fucking hell Ron, I just noticed , your reply just now was to my post from 5 DAYS AGO!
Suppose I won’t hold my breath waiting for a reply to my post above this one!

[Ron Swanson]

Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.

Say it all you want, it’s just wrong. Why not make it simple and offer him 35%. You and I both know the answer. FTR Wilder has responded offering the flat 50 AJ said he wanted. Bet AJ doesn’t accept, why, we both know why, not because AJ is scared, because NOBODY accepts a flat fee when a percentage is worth more

Flat 50 ? Did I miss this? I may have done. Link please . Thanks.

Regarding the “offer him 35%” smokescreen, read my post And stop choosing to ignore it. (I’ve put it in bold to help you. Don’t mention it.)

I’ve read it “Eddie says it is worth...” Eddie is a liar. You’ll be reading all about Wilders flat 50 offer in the next day, it’s made. And they won’t accept because they won’t risk upside, nobody does. Flat offers are fake offers. PAC didn’t accept from Floyd, Floyd didn’t accept from PAC, GGG LAUGHED at the flat offer from Canelo even though it was a career high. Because NOBODY accepts a flat offer, it’s stupid to do so in a potential large grossing fight. Again, a flat offer is a fake offer. They’re made to get people to fall for “well it’s a career high” “well it’s XXX much more than they make” duuuuh, it’s a bigger fight than ever before. Of course it’s more money. AJ will make more than he has ever made too. When they finally agree on a percentage, how fights are done.

[Ron Swanson]

And again, there is absolutely no risk in offering 35%. None!

[Ron Swanson]

Already trickling our, I haven’t read this yet but the headline suggests...

https://www.boxingscene.com/team-wil...cation--127535

[TitoFan]

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...wilder--127348



This is a peach of a comment from Hearn:

"Joshua has overpaid his opponents. He overpaid Charles Martin, he overpaid Dillian Whyte, he overpaid Breazeale, he overpaid Takam, he overpaid Parker. We ain't doing it again. We're not going to overpay Deontay Wilder for this fight."





Oh..... ok. Joshua makes a habit of overpaying opponents, and now that the prospect of one of the biggest HW title fights in decades is looming, with the US suddenly being in the picture...... NOW he decides he's not going to overpay Wilder, but rather stuff him with a pitiful offer take it or leave it.

Classic shit.

[Beanz]

How does Wider being offered his biggest ever offer, a rematch clause and a chance to make history and claim all the belts, somehow become "he is getting stuffed"?

12 million not 12 cents. I don't think he even wants to fight Whyte let alone Joshua.

[Master]

How does Wider being offered his biggest ever offer, a rematch clause and a chance to make history and claim all the belts, somehow become "he is getting stuffed"?

12 million not 12 cents. I don't think he even wants to fight Whyte let alone Joshua.

Because 12 million is derisory in comparison to the value of the fight. It looks like Eddie is scared his meal ticket may lose. He has never looked right since he saw Wlad knock down AJ.

[Fenster]

Just keep repeating the same shit over and over again, not one person that originally started with the idea Wilder was being ducked has changed their opinion -regardless of the information provided into the respective values of the boxers, the actual projected value of the fight, the percentage split offered and the actual offer of 5-x-his biggest purse.

Meanwhile team Wilder offered NOTHING but fantasy, never once was they questioned, never once did anyone say maybe they're talking bollocks, never once did anyone say the numbers do look a bit odd, no, they were right all along. Right about the 100 million. Right about the 50%. Right about being offered slave contracts. And in their absolute silence they are right again.

Hearn is a deceiving lying cunt.
Wilder and Finkle and DiBella have been shafted.

Next up Wilder fights Breazeale for $2 million, Joshua fights Miller/Povetkin for $30 million and the same fans keep repeating over and over again that Joshua ducked Wilder by not giving him a bigger percentage of $100 million!

Hilarious waste of time, as usual.

[Primo Carnera]

Just keep repeating the same shit over and over again, not one person that originally started with the idea Wilder was being ducked has changed their opinion -regardless of the information provided into the respective values of the boxers, the actual projected value of the fight, the percentage split offered and the actual offer of 5-x-his biggest purse.

Meanwhile team Wilder offered NOTHING but fantasy, never once was they questioned, never once did anyone say maybe they're talking bollocks, never once did anyone say the numbers do look a bit odd, no, they were right all along. Right about the 100 million. Right about the 50%. Right about being offered slave contracts. And in their absolute silence they are right again.

Hearn is a deceiving lying cunt.
Wilder and Finkle and DiBella have been shafted.

Next up Wilder fights Breazeale for $2 million, Joshua fights Miller/Povetkin for $30 million and the same fans keep repeating over and over again that Joshua ducked Wilder by not giving him a bigger percentage of $100 million!

Hilarious waste of time, as usual.

And you know why don’t you? Because it suits certain people on here to just think Hearn is a cunt. But when the FACTS blow their theory out of the water, they can’t admit that they were wrong and swallowing Team Wilder’s bullshit has made them look like a cunt.