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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
    Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
    Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
    Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
    So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
    Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
    If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.
    Say it all you want, it’s just wrong. Why not make it simple and offer him 35%. You and I both know the answer. FTR Wilder has responded offering the flat 50 AJ said he wanted. Bet AJ doesn’t accept, why, we both know why, not because AJ is scared, because NOBODY accepts a flat fee when a percentage is worth more
    Flat 50 ? Did I miss this? I may have done. Link please . Thanks.

    Regarding the “offer him 35%” smokescreen, read my post And stop choosing to ignore it. (I’ve put it in bold to help you. Don’t mention it.)
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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Fucking hell Ron, I just noticed , your reply just now was to my post from 5 DAYS AGO!
    Suppose I won’t hold my breath waiting for a reply to my post above this one!
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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Nice try At deflecting the point in case Ron. But the $12.5 million figure was bought into the public domain by Finkel.
    Hearn explained in the link (which you probably chose to ignore.) that this offer was based on 30-35% of what HE BELIEVES THE FIGHT IS WORTH. why does he have to take all the risks and base things on what Finkel thinks the fight will make?
    Furthermore , he also explained that while certain people are talking about a $100 Million fight, by the time you take out all the costs and nett down the figures , that’s what he’s basing his offer on. Are you still with me, or have I lost you?
    Now you talk about “everyone knows deals are based on percentages”, well yes. But you don’t offer based on the gross figure, sensible people offer on the nett after expenses. After all, why shouldn’t fighters take some of the risk as well. I mean, they are an important factor in this.
    So in a nutshell, he DID offer a percentage, just not based on “Fantasy Finkel’s” figures.
    Finally, you try to defend Wilder’s team because they’re a small time unit. Well, they’re not that small they can’t pluck BIG numbers out of the air.
    If you wanna play with the big boys, be prepared to get your fingers burnt.
    Say it all you want, it’s just wrong. Why not make it simple and offer him 35%. You and I both know the answer. FTR Wilder has responded offering the flat 50 AJ said he wanted. Bet AJ doesn’t accept, why, we both know why, not because AJ is scared, because NOBODY accepts a flat fee when a percentage is worth more
    Flat 50 ? Did I miss this? I may have done. Link please . Thanks.

    Regarding the “offer him 35%” smokescreen, read my post And stop choosing to ignore it. (I’ve put it in bold to help you. Don’t mention it.)
    I’ve read it “Eddie says it is worth...” Eddie is a liar. You’ll be reading all about Wilders flat 50 offer in the next day, it’s made. And they won’t accept because they won’t risk upside, nobody does. Flat offers are fake offers. PAC didn’t accept from Floyd, Floyd didn’t accept from PAC, GGG LAUGHED at the flat offer from Canelo even though it was a career high. Because NOBODY accepts a flat offer, it’s stupid to do so in a potential large grossing fight. Again, a flat offer is a fake offer. They’re made to get people to fall for “well it’s a career high” “well it’s XXX much more than they make” duuuuh, it’s a bigger fight than ever before. Of course it’s more money. AJ will make more than he has ever made too. When they finally agree on a percentage, how fights are done.

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    And again, there is absolutely no risk in offering 35%. None!

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Already trickling our, I haven’t read this yet but the headline suggests...

    https://www.boxingscene.com/team-wil...cation--127535

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Keep in mind this is 50 million plus 50/50 on the upside. If it does 200 AJ gets 100. If it does 20 AJ still gets 50.

    Why so quiet in here?

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    AJ has 24 hours to sign... just there's no contract let alone money.

    AJ tweeted "lets roll"

    Hearn said they're interested if it's legit, they have no problem going to Vegas if that's where they want it, although you'll be pleased to hear he thinks it's all nonsense, he called it a nice publicity stunt considering they have a meeting scheduled Friday, they haven't got the money and they know AJ has existing contracts which would have to remain intact.

    It's for after Wilder fights Breazeale, there's no rematch clause and they get 50% of everything, all the British PPV etc.

    Now carry on claiming AJ is ducking Wilder and Hearn is a bullshitter, you'll be claiming it all through the Breazeale fight even though they always planned to fight him.
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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Typical Fenster coming in with deception, show one time I said AJ was ducking Wilder. Hint, you can’t because I’ve never said it. For once be f’n honest

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