The Wilder Excuses Begin

[Ron Swanson]

My bad palmerq, it would indeed be the next fight

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ification-bout

[Ron Swanson]

I’m already reading Eddie put on a spin “we have to accept by Thursday”, making it seem like they must sign. No, you can accept in principle, on good faith. If you then read a contract that doesn’t make sense you don’t sign.

“We need to know where the money is coming from”, why? The acting partners are responsible for the contracts fulfillment. If you get paid, which you would or Haymon, Finkell and Dibella get sued and then pay plus court costs. What does it matter where it comes from.

“We need to know where the fight will be” that will be in the contract. Why act like it wouldn’t? Dude is reaching

Here we have AJ “let’s go” and Eddie but but but but but

[Ron Swanson]

This interview includes a lot of spin doctoring

“The money is important but we think AJ has earned the right to have it in the UK” umm, not if it’s only worth 40 in the UK as you say. Which Americans won’t buy an afternoon fight. But UK fans will buy this fight at any time so...

He keeps talking about the offer being from Wilder as if we all know Dibella has confirmed it but he doesn’t, sure

He also says we have to consider it but this isn’t the only way it gets done, it could be our offer our splits. Wait, wut?!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFlWizD6YOI

[Fenster]

Fat Dan ripped off the IFL interview then passed it off like Eddie had personally told him the score.

Ron, they need to employ you to sort these deals out. Effing joke ain't it mate, Eddie now stalling over nothing, making out it's important to know where the money is coming from, where and when the fight takes place, a venue, commision, what US broadcaster, do AJ's existing contracts clash with anything, is the UK end sorted, is AJ, his managers and laywers and agents and sponsors and training outfit and whatnot all on board

[Ron Swanson]

Fat Dan ripped off the IFL interview then passed it off like Eddie had personally told him the score.

Ron, they need to employ you to sort these deals out. Effing joke ain't it mate, Eddie now stalling over nothing, making out it's important to know where the money is coming from, where and when the fight takes place, a venue, commision, what US broadcaster, do AJ's existing contracts clash with anything, is the UK end sorted, is AJ, his managers and laywers and agents and sponsors and training outfit and whatnot all on board

I'm not making it out like everything he says isn't true. But notice in those 15 minutes he never once said "If this is legit we'll take it". Notice he never said "If we can come to terms on tv contracts and venue and all the details we'll make it"

I get what you're doing but why say "this isn't the only way it gets done, maybe our offer, our split"? Seriously, why is he talking about a worse deal where everyone is paid less? Answer that and we have a starting point for the snark. Otherwise it's just as I always say, just a distraction from the truth of the details.

[Ron Swanson]

Keep in mind he has made no offer with a split. And keep in mind venue was irrelevant when he was making offers, date was irrelevant, if they would have fights before was irrelevant, how many fights before was irrelevant.

We actually have a real starting point now and yes the details matter because there is now a real offer. But instead of saying anything about making it if it's real he starts talking about his non-existent splits. If you don't see the issue I feel for you.

Nobody just takes a deal, you accept in principle and hammer out the details. This is not new stuff. It's decades old negotiations. Why act like we don't know this?

[Ron Swanson]

What he said that was true is Wilders team isn't expecting the fight to make 120 million. They're expecting it to make 70 or 80 and then Wilder gets 20 or 30 instead of 12.5. With a chance at more.

But just earlier today people were "why does Eddie have to take all the risk?" Here Eddie has no risk, more money than he says the fight is worth. If he is shown the money is secure he should jump, not try to negotiate a different split as he's suggesting. Not worry about where the money came from. Not argue for the fight to be in the UK. Most money chooses location, how it's always been.

Just make the fight.

[Ron Swanson]

Eddie just made an offer with no details sorted.

A significantly better offer for his guy came back with some details sorted

No automatic rematch
Next fight for both

Why does Eddie care about details now? He didn't when he made an offer. If it comes back Wilders team doesn't have the money obviously he is FOS. It will come out in the wash. But Haymon has put on 2 half billion dollar fights in the last couple years, he got a half billion in investments for PBC. A suggestion he can't raise 50 million is silly. Of course of it isn't already raised Wilders team is FOS. But considering the people involved thinking they can't raise it is silly. The question is did they, not splits, not UK, not who made the offer, the other parties have corroborated the offer.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm going to step away from this for a few days because those that don't want to see what's happening will refuse.

When you want to deceive you use misdirection. It's blatantly obvious Eddie is trying to get everyone to look away from the things that matter towards the things that don't. Misdirection, deception.

The detail that matters is do they have the money secured. That is the start and the end. If they do it's legit, if they don't they're FOS. I implore you people, don't fall for blatant misdirection.

[Alpha]

Ron's gone all 'beautiful mind' on us.

[Fenster]

Ron's favourite film is deffo The Prestige, the misdirection in that is off the scale.


If AJ was fighting Floyd he would have evidence of Al Haymon being involved in a $50m+ fight. Eddie will probably speak to Al when they meet Friday, although considering everything he says is a lie, that's probably made up too.

Eddie's favourite film must be Catch Me If You Can, the lies in that are a work of art.

[Primo Carnera]

Well Ronnie boy, it’s all looking good with the offer. If it materialises and can be actually made , fantastico! It’s one thing saying something , another to back it up and follow through.
But obviously if the offer to fight in the US is better than the offer to fight in the U.K. for both fighters, then that is what should happen.
And like I said from the start , we will then be able to differentiate the blaggers from the serious people.

[Gandalf]

Wilder should NOT fight in the UK with all those dodgy British stoppages. It ruins fights every time. If Pac Marquez 1 was in the UK we would never have seen a great trilogy. It would have been over in a minute. You don't want to fight in a place that won't let you fight.

[brocktonblockbust]

Wilder should NOT fight in the UK with all those dodgy British stoppages. It ruins fights every time. If Pac Marquez 1 was in the UK we would never have seen a great trilogy. It would have been over in a minute. You don't want to fight in a place that won't let you fight.

true uk is bogus

[Beanz]

Is Lou DiBella even part of Wilders team? "The end of the year" ? so are they suggesting swerving and fighting Breazeale first?


https://www.boxingscene.com/team-wil...cation--127535