The Wilder Excuses Begin

[Ron Swanson]

I've been searching all over, watched about an hour and a half of Eddie videos. I haven't seem him say yes anywhere. Only reason after reason why no. I'm intrigued to see what you bring Beanz

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOZRJy4AImQ
9.14 answers your question , and indeed nearly all the way through the interview. It’s funny, didn’t take me long to find . Still, I suppose you find things if you REALLY want to find them , eh Ronnie ?
Now, my dear pedigree chum, can we please stop this tireless “@Master like” haranguing of Eddie Hearn.
At the end of the day, we’ve had some talk, there’s been some figures thrown around , now it just all needs to be backed up and getting serious.
If it happens , great! If not, we may get an idea of why not, and we can blame who we want to blame.
Now I wonder who YOU will be blaming? Hmmm, now let me see??

Is this how far we are reaching? From March 13th Eddie says “people say Eddie Hearn doesn’t want to make this fight. If you know Eddie Hearn you know he wants to make the biggest fights in boxing. I want to make money” and this is supposed to be him saying yes to the 50 million dollar plus 50% split offer? Really? You can do better. I hope you find him saying yes, but so far, this is still quite clearly not him saying yes to the fight.

[Ron Swanson]

Frankly that attempt was a little embarrassing. Try again

[Primo Carnera]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

[Ron Swanson]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

It doesn't matter who made the offer, everyone agrees that the offer was there. Dibella, Finkell, Haymon agreed to show Eddie the money.

You're the one moving the goalposts, probably why you didn't quote because I asked for someone to show me Eddie saying yes to the fight. Agreeing to the fight is far different than the fight being made. He could agree by terms sheets if he has So many issues. Agree to the 50 only, agree to the venue when he agreed with what they offer. Go point by point. This is common business.

So in March Eddie said Eddie wants to make big fights, want me to show you Eddie saying "I don't think a Wilder fight should happen this year" it's not hard to find? And when speaking about Wilder "we can get rich with no risk" saying they don't need Wilder. He keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. Are you suggesting you don't see this? I can show you Eddie saying completely opposite things if you like. But I think we both know this so it is unnecessary.

Just let me know

[Ron Swanson]

Even the “some guy from Alabama” “some guy from Alabama” to make it seem what, that Deontay doesn’t have money? His net worth is 5 times Eddies. That’s easy to look up. So what is the validity in that belittling? Or is he trying to suggest Wilder is the one putting up the money because we all know Haymon is the one putting up the money?

Tell me what purpose that serves other than distraction?

Agree and begin point by point terms sheets, don’t agree to anything you don’t like. It’s simple

[Beanz]

So now Wilder is going to give Eddie Hearn lessons on promoting?

[Beanz]

I have already posted the link where Eddy has said that he wrote back saying they were interested in the offer, send a contract etc. Where is their response? Sounds like they are just messing about.

[Ron Swanson]

So now Wilder is going to give Eddie Hearn lessons on promoting?

Seems you have learned from Eddie how to use the wrong name to belittle. You'll make a nice puppet. Read the article and you'll see Eddie saying Wilders team needs to show him how the fight will generate so much money. So yes, he wants Wilders team to teach him the business

[Primo Carnera]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

It doesn't matter who made the offer, everyone agrees that the offer was there. Dibella, Finkell, Haymon agreed to show Eddie the money.

You're the one moving the goalposts, probably why you didn't quote because I asked for someone to show me Eddie saying yes to the fight. Agreeing to the fight is far different than the fight being made. He could agree by terms sheets if he has So many issues. Agree to the 50 only, agree to the venue when he agreed with what they offer. Go point by point. This is common business.

So in March Eddie said Eddie wants to make big fights, want me to show you Eddie saying "I don't think a Wilder fight should happen this year" it's not hard to find? And when speaking about Wilder "we can get rich with no risk" saying they don't need Wilder. He keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. Are you suggesting you don't see this? I can show you Eddie saying completely opposite things if you like. But I think we both know this so it is unnecessary.

Just let me know

“Common business” is it “Common business” to agree to a fee with a contract or showing anything that fee involves?

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...e-meet--127612
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-te...ch-ask--127616

Now I keep posting fresh links to show what the REAL situation is, and all you do is rinse and repeat. If you haven’t got anything new to post on the matter, don’t bother replying because quite frankly , I’m bored with it.
Btw , nice try with the “net worth” bollocks, I’ve never heard such horseshit in all my life. Before you post the ridiculous link to Hearn being one “of the wealthiest men in Essex with a net worth of $2,5” just think about how stupid that statement would be.

[Beanz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP7rH...ature=youtu.be

[Primo Carnera]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP7rH...ature=youtu.be

Uhm 0.56 into the interview, Eddie Hearn says “We want the fight!” @Ron Swanson, thoughts?

[Ron Swanson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP7rH...ature=youtu.be

He says he doesn’t know what they can do. Really, we all know what he can do, agree to the money then negotiate. It’s a misdirection. How can anyone expect the details to be worked out if he won’t agree to what he asked for?

[Ron Swanson]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

It doesn't matter who made the offer, everyone agrees that the offer was there. Dibella, Finkell, Haymon agreed to show Eddie the money.

You're the one moving the goalposts, probably why you didn't quote because I asked for someone to show me Eddie saying yes to the fight. Agreeing to the fight is far different than the fight being made. He could agree by terms sheets if he has So many issues. Agree to the 50 only, agree to the venue when he agreed with what they offer. Go point by point. This is common business.

So in March Eddie said Eddie wants to make big fights, want me to show you Eddie saying "I don't think a Wilder fight should happen this year" it's not hard to find? And when speaking about Wilder "we can get rich with no risk" saying they don't need Wilder. He keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. Are you suggesting you don't see this? I can show you Eddie saying completely opposite things if you like. But I think we both know this so it is unnecessary.

Just let me know

“Common business” is it “Common business” to agree to a fee with a contract or showing anything that fee involves?

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...e-meet--127612
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-te...ch-ask--127616

Now I keep posting fresh links to show what the REAL situation is, and all you do is rinse and repeat. If you haven’t got anything new to post on the matter, don’t bother replying because quite frankly , I’m bored with it.
Btw , nice try with the “net worth” bollocks, I’ve never heard such horseshit in all my life. Before you post the ridiculous link to Hearn being one “of the wealthiest men in Essex with a net worth of $2,5” just think about how stupid that statement would be.

2.5 million is nothing.

http://higgingtonpost.com/eddie-hear...xing-promoter/

Which ridiculous article would you like?

What you keep skipping is most fights are agreed without a contract, that's why they just sent Wilder that weak deal and asked him to agree without a contract. And what you skip after that is Eddie himself has admitted they need to hammer out details together. So there can't be a functioning contract, only a partial contract. So what is Eddie even asking for, an incomplete but more specific piece of paper?

They sent us an offer but now we want a more specific incomplete offer

We said we needed to see the money they agreed So now we need to know where it came from because I'm going to pretend it came from some guy from Alabama

I also want them to teach me how to build revenue streams in the US

Until then "no decision can be made"

Be bored, it will become interesting when Eddie decided he wants the fight and this we have it

[Ron Swanson]

I'll put this very simple. They said "50 million and I'll agree tomorrow" that is all Wilder's team asked them to agree to for the meeting to happen. Exactly what they aSked for. Why would you have a meeting with someone who won't agree to what they aSked for?

Of course details need to be worked out. Agree and do that, point by point.

Of course location needs to be worked out, agree to the money and do that.

If later Eddie determines he doesn't like the revenue streams he can say that. If he doesn't like the location(although everyone knows it will be Vegas) he can say that. If later he determines he doesn't like the date he can say that.

Just agree to the money you asked for and negotiate

[Primo Carnera]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

It doesn't matter who made the offer, everyone agrees that the offer was there. Dibella, Finkell, Haymon agreed to show Eddie the money.

You're the one moving the goalposts, probably why you didn't quote because I asked for someone to show me Eddie saying yes to the fight. Agreeing to the fight is far different than the fight being made. He could agree by terms sheets if he has So many issues. Agree to the 50 only, agree to the venue when he agreed with what they offer. Go point by point. This is common business.

So in March Eddie said Eddie wants to make big fights, want me to show you Eddie saying "I don't think a Wilder fight should happen this year" it's not hard to find? And when speaking about Wilder "we can get rich with no risk" saying they don't need Wilder. He keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. Are you suggesting you don't see this? I can show you Eddie saying completely opposite things if you like. But I think we both know this so it is unnecessary.

Just let me know

“Common business” is it “Common business” to agree to a fee with a contract or showing anything that fee involves?

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...e-meet--127612
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-te...ch-ask--127616

Now I keep posting fresh links to show what the REAL situation is, and all you do is rinse and repeat. If you haven’t got anything new to post on the matter, don’t bother replying because quite frankly , I’m bored with it.
Btw , nice try with the “net worth” bollocks, I’ve never heard such horseshit in all my life. Before you post the ridiculous link to Hearn being one “of the wealthiest men in Essex with a net worth of $2,5” just think about how stupid that statement would be.

2.5 million is nothing.

http://higgingtonpost.com/eddie-hear...xing-promoter/

Which ridiculous article would you like?

What you keep skipping is most fights are agreed without a contract, that's why they just sent Wilder that weak deal and asked him to agree without a contract. And what you skip after that is Eddie himself has admitted they need to hammer out details together. So there can't be a functioning contract, only a partial contract. So what is Eddie even asking for, an incomplete but more specific piece of paper?

They sent us an offer but now we want a more specific incomplete offer

We said we needed to see the money they agreed So now we need to know where it came from because I'm going to pretend it came from some guy from Alabama

I also want them to teach me how to build revenue streams in the US

Until then "no decision can be made"

Be bored, it will become interesting when Eddie decided he wants the fight and this we have it

Wait a minute, before we can go any further,please can you answer me one question. Do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that link?