Obama to Trump: you'll never get 3% growth. We got 3.9% now!

[walrus]

How about some real numbers presented in an objective manner? That's probably an oxymoron when talking about the US economy, isn't it.

The economy is growing. Is it all Trump? Were there decisions made before Trump that may have set some of these indicators in motion? Is it cyclical behavior we've seen countless times before?

Economies don't turn on a dime. They have inertia and momentum.

Is there an outfit capable of objective economic analysis without political slant?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes I am that outfit and yes it is all trump you may use this as a link

[TitoFan]

How about some real numbers presented in an objective manner? That's probably an oxymoron when talking about the US economy, isn't it.

The economy is growing. Is it all Trump? Were there decisions made before Trump that may have set some of these indicators in motion? Is it cyclical behavior we've seen countless times before?

Economies don't turn on a dime. They have inertia and momentum.

Is there an outfit capable of objective economic analysis without political slant?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes I am that outfit and yes it is all trump you may use this as a link

So you have nothing? Not even a crayon-drawn scribble that quantifies Trump's economic triumphs?

[brocktonblockbust]

Hundreds of billions of dollars have been brought in a loan just on repatriation of funds by slashing the tax rate for repatriation of funds that alone brings this up probably to 2.7 or 2.8% growth. there are hundreds of reasons how Trump instantly turn the economy on a dime but Tito fan does not want to believe it because he is drinking the Kool-Aid that says give Obama credit and take away any credit from Trump. It really is true out there saying he didn't really do it.

Now that is the real sickness right there.

[Gandalf]

Kirkland is right, this is fake news. Next.

[brocktonblockbust]

Hundreds of billions of dollars have been brought in alone just on repatriation of funds by slashing the tax rate for repatriation of funds and as well by renegotiating instantly renegotiating the terms of International import export agreements....that alone brings us up probably to 2.7 or 2.8% growth. there are hundreds of OTHER reasons how Trump instantly turned the economy upwards on a dime but Tito fan does not want to believe it because he is drinking the Kool-Aid that says "give Obama credit and take away any credit from Trump".

People are pretending that they are being rational and objective in their criticism of trump but what they don't realize is that they have been brainwashed over the past 8 or 12 years. How have they been brainwashed exactly to make them look at Trump like this? Their thought processes have been so dumbed down and over simplified and they have become so pathetic and they live in these gotcha moments that any little slight in accuracy that Trump States even off the cuff or in Jest or to manipulate, they will jump on it as if it is some kind of incredible outrage against humanity or as some people I have mentioned above have put it it is so quote unquote Unbecoming of a president. Oh boo hoo get the violins oh boo hoo hoo hoo get the violins.

Now that is the real sickness right there.

[Gandalf]

It's cycles Brock. Anything Trump does is only going to be seen on a longer timeline. He has been President two years only. Plus I fully anticipate another global meltdown and I am not going to cry too much about it.

[Gandalf]

Lost baby bird, sure. I will cry a river. But the biggest economic crash in human history? Not so much.

[walrus]

Lost baby bird, sure. I will cry a river. But the biggest economic crash in human history? Not so much.

Just stock up on gold and silver you will be good

[Kirkland Laing]

It's cycles Brock. Anything Trump does is only going to be seen on a longer timeline. He has been President two years only. Plus I fully anticipate another global meltdown and I am not going to cry too much about it.

If US interest rates do keep going up it's going to blow things up. There are trillions of dollars of corporate/business debt in other countries denominated in dollars. If those loans start failing due to the dollar going up due to interest rates then it's going to cause big problems. Then everybody will be saying that the great economy of the late 2010s was actually illusory. And it is really. Heading for ten years into an economic expansion, rock bottom interest rates, first-in-history combination of low interest rates and high unemployment, previously central banks have always started banging rates up and creating recessions once unemployment hits 5%. This time because the recovery has been so poor they've kept them low and we now have less than 4% unemployment and everybody is talking about how strong the economy is. Well it isn't. It's still fragile as hell and it won't take much to fuck things up. We should have 4-5+% growth at this point in the cycle with these conditions and we can't crack three without cutting taxes and blowing the deficit up. And the US is currently running trillion dollar deficits in the middle of it. Just wait till the next recession.

[walrus]

It's cycles Brock. Anything Trump does is only going to be seen on a longer timeline. He has been President two years only. Plus I fully anticipate another global meltdown and I am not going to cry too much about it.

If US interest rates do keep going up it's going to blow things up. There are trillions of dollars of corporate/business debt in other countries denominated in dollars. If those loans start failing due to the dollar going up due to interest rates then it's going to cause big problems. Then everybody will be saying that the great economy of the late 2010s was actually illusory. And it is really. Heading for ten years into an economic expansion, rock bottom interest rates, first-in-history combination of low interest rates and high unemployment, previously central banks have always started banging rates up and creating recessions once unemployment hits 5%. This time because the recovery has been so poor they've kept them low and we now have less than 4% unemployment and everybody is talking about how strong the economy is. Well it isn't. It's still fragile as hell and it won't take much to fuck things up. We should have 4-5+% growth at this point in the cycle with these conditions and we can't crack three without cutting taxes and blowing the deficit up. And the US is currently running trillion dollar deficits in the middle of it. Just wait till the next recession.

U r almost good at pretending you know what u r talking about

[Kirkland Laing]

Hundreds of billions of dollars have been brought in a loan just on repatriation of funds by slashing the tax rate for repatriation of funds that alone brings this up probably to 2.7 or 2.8% growth. there are hundreds of reasons how Trump instantly turn the economy on a dime but Tito fan does not want to believe it because he is drinking the Kool-Aid that says give Obama credit and take away any credit from Trump. It really is true out there saying he didn't really do it.

Now that is the real sickness right there.

Hundreds of billions have been brought back to the US. And they've been paid out to shareholders and top exwcutives in bonuses or used to buy back shares whichenriches shareholders and top executives. Meanwhile there's no increase in the rate of business investment over the Obama years.

[walrus]

How about some real numbers presented in an objective manner? That's probably an oxymoron when talking about the US economy, isn't it.

The economy is growing. Is it all Trump? Were there decisions made before Trump that may have set some of these indicators in motion? Is it cyclical behavior we've seen countless times before?

Economies don't turn on a dime. They have inertia and momentum.

Is there an outfit capable of objective economic analysis without political slant?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes I am that outfit and yes it is all trump you may use this as a link

So you have nothing? Not even a crayon-drawn scribble that quantifies Trump's economic triumphs?

I know u are a fraud as I tripped u over a simple word all Americans including the government call a certain monetary body here in the US. You didn’t know what I was talking about despite you saying you worked for that very body. Since then, I knew u were a fraud. Why would I encourage u. #banbrock is internet stalking u as we speak. He is being funded with bitcoin which was converted to monero which is more anonymous @TitoFan tits I’m sorry I answered like that cause I thought you were jerkland Laing. To answer your question my words contain all the info u need. Like I said many use my posts as links when they want to explain something to people

[TitoFan]

How about some real numbers presented in an objective manner? That's probably an oxymoron when talking about the US economy, isn't it.

The economy is growing. Is it all Trump? Were there decisions made before Trump that may have set some of these indicators in motion? Is it cyclical behavior we've seen countless times before?

Economies don't turn on a dime. They have inertia and momentum.

Is there an outfit capable of objective economic analysis without political slant?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes I am that outfit and yes it is all trump you may use this as a link

So you have nothing? Not even a crayon-drawn scribble that quantifies Trump's economic triumphs?

I know u are a fraud as I tripped u over a simple word all Americans including the government call a certain monetary body here in the US. You didn’t know what I was talking about despite you saying you worked for that very body. Since then, I knew u were a fraud. Why would I encourage u. #banbrock is internet stalking u as we speak. He is being funded with bitcoin which was converted to monero which is more anonymous @TitoFan tits I’m sorry I answered like that cause I thought you were jerkland Laing. To answer your question my words contain all the info u need. Like I said many use my posts as links when they want to explain something to people

While your response was amusing, it failed to address the point that arguments over the state of the economy are usually best held with objective economic indicators. But I guess you felt it better to throw one of your accustomed wisecracks which came off a bit condescending, which of course prompted my own wiseass response.

That's regarding the 2nd half of your post. The first half I'm puzzled, as it seems to address someone else, unless of course I missed something.

[walrus]

How about some real numbers presented in an objective manner? That's probably an oxymoron when talking about the US economy, isn't it.

The economy is growing. Is it all Trump? Were there decisions made before Trump that may have set some of these indicators in motion? Is it cyclical behavior we've seen countless times before?

Economies don't turn on a dime. They have inertia and momentum.

Is there an outfit capable of objective economic analysis without political slant?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes I am that outfit and yes it is all trump you may use this as a link

So you have nothing? Not even a crayon-drawn scribble that quantifies Trump's economic triumphs?

I know u are a fraud as I tripped u over a simple word all Americans including the government call a certain monetary body here in the US. You didn’t know what I was talking about despite you saying you worked for that very body. Since then, I knew u were a fraud. Why would I encourage u. #banbrock is internet stalking u as we speak. He is being funded with bitcoin which was converted to monero which is more anonymous @TitoFan tits I’m sorry I answered like that cause I thought you were jerkland Laing. To answer your question my words contain all the info u need. Like I said many use my posts as links when they want to explain something to people

While your response was amusing, it failed to address the point that arguments over the state of the economy are usually best held with objective economic indicators. But I guess you felt it better to throw one of your accustomed wisecracks which came off a bit condescending, which of course prompted my own wiseass response.

That's regarding the 2nd half of your post. The first half I'm puzzled, as it seems to address someone else, unless of course I missed something.

ya when you asked me the question I thought u were jerkland which lead to this mass confusion. I meant to start a new post explaining that but I got them mixed together