Who was better, Lewis or Wlad?

[Master]

Lennox did not sprint. Vitali eye was going to take too long to heal and Lennox was not waiting for no one. Nothing else to prove for mighty Lennox Lewis.

LOL.... sure thing bro

Lennox vs Vitali happened June 21, 2003
Vitali vs Kirk Johnson happened December 6, 2003


Lennox was of course free to leave the scene as the division was passing him by and that's exactly what he did.

6 months.

The overweight and out of shape Lennox was too much for Vitali. A fit version beats Vitali in better fashion.

That's your GUESS because they never had a rematch. They never had a rematch because Vitali was too dangerous. It wasn't the lack of money, it wasn't the lack of fan interest, everyone bar Lennox and his fans wanted that rematch.

If Vitali was too dangerous Lennox would never have fought him in the first place.

Lennox won the fight.

Lennox cut up and disfigured Vitali.

[El Kabong]

Lennox did not sprint. Vitali eye was going to take too long to heal and Lennox was not waiting for no one. Nothing else to prove for mighty Lennox Lewis.

LOL.... sure thing bro

Lennox vs Vitali happened June 21, 2003
Vitali vs Kirk Johnson happened December 6, 2003


Lennox was of course free to leave the scene as the division was passing him by and that's exactly what he did.

6 months.

The overweight and out of shape Lennox was too much for Vitali. A fit version beats Vitali in better fashion.

That's your GUESS because they never had a rematch. They never had a rematch because Vitali was too dangerous. It wasn't the lack of money, it wasn't the lack of fan interest, everyone bar Lennox and his fans wanted that rematch.

If Vitali was too dangerous Lennox would never have fought him in the first place.

Lennox won the fight.

Lennox cut up and disfigured Vitali.

Lennox got scared during and after the fight, Lennox hit Vitali with everything and the guy was still standing right there in front of him at the end of the night.


Ali gave Quarry a rematch because Quarry got cut....Lennox wasn't going to risk it.


I'm giving Lennox his due, he was a great champion, but that night he was getting beat and he knew he'd lose a rematch and that's why he retired.


Wlad could have retired instead of fighting Fury OR AJ he fought both and he was older than Lennox as well.

[Master]

Lennox did not sprint. Vitali eye was going to take too long to heal and Lennox was not waiting for no one. Nothing else to prove for mighty Lennox Lewis.

LOL.... sure thing bro

Lennox vs Vitali happened June 21, 2003
Vitali vs Kirk Johnson happened December 6, 2003


Lennox was of course free to leave the scene as the division was passing him by and that's exactly what he did.

6 months.

The overweight and out of shape Lennox was too much for Vitali. A fit version beats Vitali in better fashion.

That's your GUESS because they never had a rematch. They never had a rematch because Vitali was too dangerous. It wasn't the lack of money, it wasn't the lack of fan interest, everyone bar Lennox and his fans wanted that rematch.

If Vitali was too dangerous Lennox would never have fought him in the first place.

Lennox won the fight.

Lennox cut up and disfigured Vitali.

Lennox got scared during and after the fight, Lennox hit Vitali with everything and the guy was still standing right there in front of him at the end of the night.


Ali gave Quarry a rematch because Quarry got cut....Lennox wasn't going to risk it.


I'm giving Lennox his due, he was a great champion, but that night he was getting beat and he knew he'd lose a rematch and that's why he retired.


Wlad could have retired instead of fighting Fury OR AJ he fought both and he was older than Lennox as well.

Lennox did not get scared, he damaged Vitali. There was nothing more he could have done.

[El Kabong]

Lennox did not get scared, he damaged Vitali. There was nothing more he could have done.

If that's how you feel then go with that. Everyone wanted a rematch, everyone at HBO wanted a rematch, Vitali wanted the rematch, the fans wanted the rematch, other boxers wanted to see the rematch.


No one is begrudging Lennox Lewis' greatness....but instead of finishing off a rivalry that started with their first fight he retired FACT.


You can stomp your foot all you want, Lennox saw the writing on the wall and he knew to hang up the gloves rather than attempt a rematch.

[TitoFan]

I'd go with Lennox. Other than his snoozefest with Tua, Lennox was also sooo much more entertaining as a heavyweight champion.

[Alpha]

I have to go with Lewis.

[powerpuncher]

Lennox did not get scared, he damaged Vitali. There was nothing more he could have done.

If that's how you feel then go with that. Everyone wanted a rematch, everyone at HBO wanted a rematch, Vitali wanted the rematch, the fans wanted the rematch, other boxers wanted to see the rematch.


No one is begrudging Lennox Lewis' greatness....but instead of finishing off a rivalry that started with their first fight he retired FACT.


You can stomp your foot all you want, Lennox saw the writing on the wall and he knew to hang up the gloves rather than attempt a rematch.

Lewis legitimately beat Vitali. He was getting older and his passion wasn’t there. Sure, a rematch would have been great, but you can’t fault Lewis for retiring. I highly doubt it was fear. It was just his time and much credit to him for not staying in boxing for too long. He’s one of the few who left at the right time.

[imp]

Fury could never have outboxed Vitali in the same way as Wlad.

Wlad was a great champion but missed the spite..that missing spite would have continued the attack on AJ after the knockdown.

Lews beats all types of Wlad and stopped the best Vitali in his last fight..it’s that simple.

[El Kabong]

Fury could never have outboxed Vitali in the same way as Wlad.

Wlad was a great champion but missed the spite..that missing spite would have continued the attack on AJ after the knockdown.

Lews beats all types of Wlad and stopped the best Vitali in his last fight..it’s that simple.

Well if you've gassed out trying to KO a couple guys before then you're more apt to play cautious and that's the 1 time it hurt him.

I don't think Wlad was in the fighting mindset vs Fury at all, his focus was elsewhere...that said the dude kept his focus and beat any and all comers OVERWHELMINGLY for about a decade so he's certainly not this paper tiger that people like to make him out to be.


For the Lennox vs Vitali fight a lot of folks want to bring up that Lennox was prepared to fight Kirk Johnson and they act like Vitali was 110% prepared to face Lennox. #1 Vitali was always in tremendous shape for fights regardless of who he was fighting #2 BOTH fighters took the fight on short notice which to me adds more relevance to the calls for a rematch...what if they had both been prepared to fight each other...Vitali was to fight I think it was Cedric Boswell or some shit a fighter Lennox Lewis was head and shoulders better than even on his worst nights #3 I don't begrudge Lennox for retiring but let's not pretend we all don't know why he retired rather than take the rematch...he got out as champion that's why there was no rematch....the money was more than right, the fans wanted it, boxing pundits wanted it, it's THE missed fight of the 2000's.....would the result have been different? WE WILL NEVER KNOW and that's just how it is, Lewis supporters will say "Hey he already beat him".....meh it was 4-2 on all judges' scorecards and had Vitali not been cut (which was partially his own fault for leaning away from Lewis' punches rather than blocking them. Lewis' thumb caught Vitali's eyelid which is a freak injury that I haven't seen happen before or since).


A lot of folks like to act like Wlad was champion during this hundred year drought of heavyweight talent and it's simply not the case. He was a great champion.

[Drago]

Lennox did not sprint. Vitali eye was going to take too long to heal and Lennox was not waiting for no one. Nothing else to prove for mighty Lennox Lewis.

LOL.... sure thing bro

Lennox vs Vitali happened June 21, 2003
Vitali vs Kirk Johnson happened December 6, 2003


Lennox was of course free to leave the scene as the division was passing him by and that's exactly what he did.

6 months.

The overweight and out of shape Lennox was too much for Vitali. A fit version beats Vitali in better fashion.

That's your GUESS because they never had a rematch. They never had a rematch because Vitali was too dangerous. It wasn't the lack of money, it wasn't the lack of fan interest, everyone bar Lennox and his fans wanted that rematch.

If Vitali was too dangerous Lennox would never have fought him in the first place.

Lennox won the fight.

Lennox cut up and disfigured Vitali.

Lennox got scared during and after the fight, Lennox hit Vitali with everything and the guy was still standing right there in front of him at the end of the night.


Ali gave Quarry a rematch because Quarry got cut....Lennox wasn't going to risk it.


I'm giving Lennox his due, he was a great champion, but that night he was getting beat and he knew he'd lose a rematch and that's why he retired.


Wlad could have retired instead of fighting Fury OR AJ he fought both and he was older than Lennox as well.

I will go with history, Lewis never quit in his carreer however Vitali has. Plus Vitali was all banged up. Lewis would of won with a late stoppage anyway.