Wilder v Fury - Deal almost done for December

[TitoFan]

If the fight was to happen and Fury did win would it be seen as an amazing feat for someone who has only fought 2 bums in 3 years or would people say Wilder was exposed?

I'll have a go at that one too, since I'm answering all Fury-related questions.


Answer is "B", Wilder was exposed.


To expand. If Wilder loses to a "fat fuck" (someone else's description but I like it) with two laughable tuneups "fights" (quotation marks for a reason) after imploding following his horrific win over Wladimir Klitschko and falling off the cliff of professional boxing....................... YEAH............... I'd say with pretty much certainty it was that Wilder was exposed.

But on the flipside of that if a big fat fuck with only 2 easy tune up fights coming off a 3 year drink, drug and depression problem, losing 7 stone along the way does beat Wilder on US soil, does that not make him an excellent fighter?
I think Wilder is too fast and athletic to not land some massive right hands on Fury at times and Fury ain't exactly a hard hitter who's power makes an opponent think twice about attacking him, it's his freakish height, reach and slippery awkward style that gets him results.
Furys chin is still a bit suspect when it boils down to it and if Wilder is able to land his right hand Furys in trouble.
It's a great mix of fucked up wild styles that intruiges me as a fan.

I don't think that makes him an excellent fighter, just like his win over Wlad I didn't think meant Fury was an excellent fighter either. Awkward, yes. Wily, yes. Savvy, yes. Fury beat Wlad by getting into his head (not that Wlad needed much help on that..... he had been "Timid Wlad" for over a decade, thanks to Emmanuel Steward's Bambi defense coaching). But back to Wilder. Wilder is fast and athletic... yes. Huge puncher, too. So obviously Fury would get his due credit for doing what AJ is obviously not willing to do..... travel to the U.S. and beating Wilder in his own backyard. But would that make him an excellent fighter? IMO, no. Wilder is fast and athletic, but tremendously RAW. If he was anything close to being a classic boxer with passable boxing skills.... he'd be undefeated until age 50. Nobody would touch him. But couple Wilder's rawness with Fury's awkwardness and savvy..... and you've got a recipe for success, provided Fury doesn't get tagged. I'll agree with your last sentence, though. It IS a great mix of fucked up wild styles.

[Master]

If the fight was to happen and Fury did win would it be seen as an amazing feat for someone who has only fought 2 bums in 3 years or would people say Wilder was exposed?

I'll have a go at that one too, since I'm answering all Fury-related questions.


Answer is "B", Wilder was exposed.


To expand. If Wilder loses to a "fat fuck" (someone else's description but I like it) with two laughable tuneups "fights" (quotation marks for a reason) after imploding following his horrific win over Wladimir Klitschko and falling off the cliff of professional boxing....................... YEAH............... I'd say with pretty much certainty it was that Wilder was exposed.

But on the flipside of that if a big fat fuck with only 2 easy tune up fights coming off a 3 year drink, drug and depression problem, losing 7 stone along the way does beat Wilder on US soil, does that not make him an excellent fighter?
I think Wilder is too fast and athletic to not land some massive right hands on Fury at times and Fury ain't exactly a hard hitter who's power makes an opponent think twice about attacking him, it's his freakish height, reach and slippery awkward style that gets him results.
Furys chin is still a bit suspect when it boils down to it and if Wilder is able to land his right hand Furys in trouble.
It's a great mix of fucked up wild styles that intruiges me as a fan.

I don't think that makes him an excellent fighter, just like his win over Wlad I didn't think meant Fury was an excellent fighter either. Awkward, yes. Wily, yes. Savvy, yes. Fury beat Wlad by getting into his head (not that Wlad needed much help on that..... he had been "Timid Wlad" for over a decade, thanks to Emmanuel Steward's Bambi defense coaching). But back to Wilder. Wilder is fast and athletic... yes. Huge puncher, too. So obviously Fury would get his due credit for doing what AJ is obviously not willing to do..... travel to the U.S. and beating Wilder in his own backyard. But would that make him an excellent fighter? IMO, no. Wilder is fast and athletic, but tremendously RAW. If he was anything close to being a classic boxer with passable boxing skills.... he'd be undefeated until age 50. Nobody would touch him. But couple Wilder's rawness with Fury's awkwardness and savvy..... and you've got a recipe for success, provided Fury doesn't get tagged. I'll agree with your last sentence, though. It IS a great mix of fucked up wild styles.

Maybe not excellent fighter but certainly an exceptional fighter.

[powerpuncher]

Are people seriously picking Fury to win this? Fury is so overrated it’s ridiculous. If this was right after the Wlad fight, I would be 50/50. Now, as @TitoFan said, it would just be a complete implosion by Wilder if he lost. Wilder has proven to have stamina to last 12 rounds. No way Fury can last down the stretch if it even got that far.

[Primo Carnera]

IF Fury did pull this off, and IF he beat AJ , there’s one thing above all that I would look forward to........yes,
THE RETURN OF @ross!

[Master]

Are people seriously picking Fury to win this? Fury is so overrated it’s ridiculous. If this was right after the Wlad fight, I would be 50/50. Now, as @TitoFan said, it would just be a complete implosion by Wilder if he lost. Wilder has proven to have stamina to last 12 rounds. No way Fury can last down the stretch if it even got that far.

I agree but if he did it it would be an amazing acheivment.

[Freedom]

Tyson Fury is making a big mistake, he won't be ready for Wilder in November

Fury needs to first fight several decent journeymen to get back into his best fighting shape before going in with Wilder or Joshua!

After his massive weight gain, depression and long period of inactivity, he shouldn't fight someone like Wilder until at least the summer of 2019, especially not in Las Vegas with it's dodgy referees and judges.

I realize Wilder is far from invincible. If Fury waits until he's back into his top form, he's sure to win. But November 2018 is too soon, he's going to very likely ruin his chances of getting back to the top of the heavyweight division.

[Gandalf]

Tyson Fury is making a big mistake, he won't be ready for Wilder in November

Fury needs to first fight several decent journeymen to get back into his best fighting shape before going in with Wilder or Joshua!

After his massive weight gain, depression and long period of inactivity, he shouldn't fight someone like Wilder until at least the summer of 2019, especially not in Las Vegas with it's dodgy referees and judges.

I realize Wilder is far from invincible. If Fury waits until he's back into his top form, he's sure to win. But November 2018 is too soon, he's going to very likely ruin his chances of getting back to the top of the heavyweight division.

I agree. Even the real Tyson built himself up first after the long lay off. I can see Fury being a bit like Hatton after a long lay off and the timing, stamina and drive won't be the same. Fury will get knocked out. He wasn't that good to begin with. Both Fury and Joshua beat an old and done Wlad.

[TAPugil]

Hard.

[powerpuncher]

Are people seriously picking Fury to win this? Fury is so overrated it’s ridiculous. If this was right after the Wlad fight, I would be 50/50. Now, as @TitoFan said, it would just be a complete implosion by Wilder if he lost. Wilder has proven to have stamina to last 12 rounds. No way Fury can last down the stretch if it even got that far.

I agree but if he did it it would be an amazing acheivment.

IF he could beat Wilder then it would be the best decision of his life. If not, I think he goes back into his depression and quits boxing again.

[palmerq]

Are people seriously picking Fury to win this? Fury is so overrated it’s ridiculous. If this was right after the Wlad fight, I would be 50/50. Now, as @TitoFan said, it would just be a complete implosion by Wilder if he lost. Wilder has proven to have stamina to last 12 rounds. No way Fury can last down the stretch if it even got that far.

He could just get back on the wild boar and he'll be in top condition again.

[Master]

Are people seriously picking Fury to win this? Fury is so overrated it’s ridiculous. If this was right after the Wlad fight, I would be 50/50. Now, as @TitoFan said, it would just be a complete implosion by Wilder if he lost. Wilder has proven to have stamina to last 12 rounds. No way Fury can last down the stretch if it even got that far.

He could just get back on the wild boar and he'll be in top condition again.

Then he will be out for another 3 years by being banned.

[Dia bando]

Wilder v Fury I think Tyson will just be to crafty for Wilder learning on holding he will frustrate him winning on points in one ugly fight.

[Master]

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury set for November as WBC champion hits out at ‘embarrassing’ Anthony Joshua

Deontay Wilder has revealed a deal to face Tyson Fury is close and that the duo are set to fight in either “November or December” as the WBC heavyweight champion took another passing shot at rival Anthony Joshua.

Fury revealed last week that his team were in talks for the fight, which is believed to be pencilled in for Las Vegas on either 10 or 17 November of this year.

Wilder was left frustrated in his negotiations with Joshua and his promoter Eddie Hearn this summer as the two parties could not make a deal on an undisputed unification fight for this year, and has consequently turned to other options.

Joshua will face his mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin instead of Wilder now after being threatened with the stripping of his belts.

Wilder revealed how pleasantly surprised he had been with the quick progress of negotiations between his team and Fury’s in what will be the biggest fight of his career to date.

“Whatever date that suits us best, that’s the date we’ll go with,” Wilder told BoxingScene.com. “But people should know that this fight is happening. It will happen. We just can’t wait. We can’t wait to announce it and get it on.

“It could be wrapped up next week. Or it could be wrapped up [Friday]. We’re that close. This has been the easiest negotiation I’ve ever been in, dealing with a fight of this magnitude. That just lets you know this fight will happen. I don’t see nothing that will stop this fight from happening, nothing at all.”



Wilder called Fury, who is still boxing’s lineal world heavyweight champion, a “true champion” and claimed that he saved the UK from the “embarrassment” of Joshua not taking the fight. He also praised the Manchester fighter for being willing to fight in America, even though he could have demanded Wilder came to the UK, where he would have earned more money.

“I respect for him and I salute him for that [accepting the fight in America], for trying to save face for his country, to try to save them from the embarrassment they feel over there,” Wilder said.

“Because we’re laughing at them hard, especially when Joshua asked for $50 million and then talked about he was just playing. But Fury, he’s a true champion. This is what champions are all about.

“This is a bigger fight than the Joshua fight. This is a way bigger fight. Just for Tyson to take this opportunity, and be able to do [a deal] in a short amount of time, it tells you about his character. He’s a true warrior. He’s a true gypsy king and I can’t wait to share a ring with him.

“This is humiliation for Joshua’s side. They didn’t wanna fight, they didn’t wanna let me in the ring, they didn’t want no confrontation with me, they didn’t wanna look me in the eye. So we’re showing the young boy what it is to be a man, what the requirements of this job are. So I hope Joshua and his team are taking notes on what real champions are supposed to do. Real kings are supposed to fight each other.”

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/deo...114700177.html