Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Lyle, show me one bit of evidence where all BLM members don't "want to look at why or how something happened". It's too easy to say that. In the middle of all the shootings, if a justified one occurs, hell..... unfortunately it gets swept up in the outrage. It's not right.... but it's understandable. There's a PATTERN going on here, Lyle.
Don't you start the ALL game with me too, I get enough of that from everyone else. No, there IS a pattern it's A) Police shooting of black person B ) Demand video evidence C) Regardless of video evidence emotions have been amped up everyone is sharing their unrelated stories of what happened to them as individuals and then D) Riots........at the end of the day what matters is that there was a shooting and a black person is dead...nothing else matters. BLM does that, the MSM does that, it's the very same with mass shootings there's a pattern and instead of "Oh the authorities had information all along and could have stopped it" the focus is "OMG ban guns/make new laws"....those things miss the point entirely.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
I KNOW there are justified shootings. My guess is many BLM'ers do also. So what is a movement supposed to do..... skip and hop over individual cases? There's a PATTERN. That's what we should be concerned about.
Yes, YOU know there are justified shootings. BLM'ers may or may not know that, whether or not the shooting was justified isn't their point their point is a black person has died at the hands of the police FULLSTOP. That is their point....not "Well he WAS reaching for a gun" or "He DID violently resist arrest". I don't get myself emotionally worked up over police shootings or mass shootings, I ask questions, I wait for evidence, I piece things together and typically there are easy answers available.

What pattern are you talking about? Just police shooting black people? If that's the case then I would ask that you take a look at the stats.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
No disrespect, Lyle but..... what's your point? BLM is protesting unwarranted shootings of young black men at the hands of white police officers. The crime statistics in Chicago are another matter altogether. Apples and oranges. Why should the crime statistics in Chicago prevent BLM from protesting what they think is wrong? Chicago's issues are massive. They need well thought out solutions. They actually need forceful solutions. But again..... what's the point here? Do the crime statistics in Chicago have any bearing whatsoever on the number of white police officers who, either due to improper training, racial biases, or any number of reasons exercise total abuse of power when it comes to young black males? No... I don't think so.
Well first off not all of the BLM protested shootings were carried out by white cops, Philando Castile was shot by Officer Jeronimo Yanez...you know the Yanez family, they came over on the Mayflower. BLM isn't protesting "unwarranted shootings" they are protesting "police shootings of blacks"...hell one of the broads who started BLM is for Prison ABOLITION ...yes Abolishing PRISONS. That is one of the BLM founders who is for that. Not "Get private companies out of the prison game" which I could agree with, but it's "Get rid of prisons". Black Lives are Black Lives, more Black Lives are taken in gang violence than by police....perhaps solving THAT would also solve the police shooting blacks.

Again I implore you to look at the stats. Who is more likely to shoot who? Is there a big disparity in race of who is shot by the police? Per Capita?

My solution for all of this is: more 2 parent households, clean up the schools, graduate high school at the very least, get a job, don't get pregnant or get somebody pregnant until you're married. That would solve a great deal of issues. I'd also like for the police to be less like the local military and more like Sheriff Andy Taylor from the Andy Griffith show....know your community, love your community, protect your community, don't have disdain for where you live or where your patrol is.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
You may be right about who started BLM who knows. But I CAN tell you that many decent black people have joined BLM because they're seeing the same thing I'm seeing..... a disproportionate amount of shootings of unarmed black men by white cops. Nothing more...... nothing less. Some are warranted? Sure. There's black gangland rampant shootings in Chicago? Damn right. Some BLM'ers are wagon-jumping idiots? Certainly. But none of this invalidates my point.
I don't blindly hate BLM, I studied up on them. There's ways to make things better and there's ways to make things worse. Cops shooting citizens (of ANY color) unlawfully doesn't help. Rioting when a criminal is shot doesn't help.

I know there's a big media push on this issue, I find it kind of ridiculous...this is not Mississippi Burning, there's no water hoses and attack dogs, there's a giant drug and gang issues in a lot of these cities (white, black, brown, red, etc) and the police are more often being goaded by protesters when it's a tough job already...I don't like the police but they are not going out there every single day and playing The Most Dangerous Game and "hunting" black men...not happening.

Number of people shot to death by the police in the United States in 2017-2018, as of June, by race
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

....looks like a shit ton of white people were killed by the police to me...but hey YOU try making "White Lives Matter" a thing, I ain't touching that shit.