Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
But you prefer to talk about BLM from the standpoint of those who prefer to start a riot no matter why, how, where, or under what circumstances the shooting occurred.
That is what I have witnessed them bring to the table...that and deplatforming folks who COULD help them out....remember when Bernie Sanders gave up his podium under duress and allowed BLM to speak? I do...I'm not a Bernie fan, but that's not cool to force people to listen to you, I shut that shit out.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
You mentioned Michael Brown and Eric Garner..... I mentioned Stephon Clark and Walter Scott. Ok so Brown and Garner had it coming to them. Let's go on that assumption. What about the other two? What repercussions have there been based on those incidences? What far-ranging measures have been taken to avoid this sort of murder from happening in front of our very eyes? That's the pattern I'm talking about. And these are the video taped incidents. What about the many incidents that don't get caught on camera? There are issues that need to be addressed... let's not kid ourselves.
I don't believe anyone "had it coming". I think all these losses of life are bad and I was the very first poster here to call Walter Scott's murder what it was MURDER. Now Walter Scott DID run from a policeman and that in my book is a "NO-NO"....even if you have something to run from, you're taking a massive risk playing those odds. I get the fact that certain groups of people are scared of the police...I don't trust the police and yes they should be held accountable for their actions....but so should humans in general.

Every incident should be looked at individually. Philando Castile, Walter Scott, Eric Garner, etc all very different cases, all ended up with dead people, all could teach officers and civilians different things. Emotion must be taken out of these situations in order to learn new information. It can and should anger a community when these things happen, but you don't lead with emotion because more mistakes get made and emotion makes people irrational.


Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Those are great long term solutions. What about some immediate ones? Mandatory, enforced use of cop-cams 100% percent of the time.... no excuses. Cop-cam not working? Go home and not get paid. Mandatory is mandatory. That's the best way to force accountability on cops. They want to take out their racist tendencies on innocent people? Let them do it on their own time, in the neighborhood bar or a back alley. Not with their uniform on.
Jobs, education, decriminalize marijuana, and I would like to say some sort of Police Academy Citizens on Patrol community reach out kind of program could help. We should all be on the same team, all rowing the same direction. Cameras? Meh I mean what good do they do when every single death ends with protests and riots...BLM doesn't discriminate and that's something that needs to be understood. Convicted cop killer Assata Shakur is a "hero" to one of BLM's founders In 2015, Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza writes: "When I use Assata’s powerful demand in my organizing work, I always begin by sharing where it comes from, sharing about Assata’s significance to the Black Liberation Movement, what its political purpose and message is, and why it’s important in our context."

BLM doesn't want peace in the streets, BLM wants the abolition of police and prison as they deem them "white supremacy"....there must be rule of law, must be.



Are there racist cops? Maybe, I guess...but how many? Are they all white racists or are there black, asian, hispanic racist cops? Look at the number of white people shot by cops (475 in 2017 & 211 so far in 2018 ) compare it to the number of blacks shot by cops (223 in 2017 and 102 so far in 2018 ) and tell me there's a white racist cop problem to the extent that BLM is saying there is especially when 14% of the population in the US is black and they account for around 50% of the violent crime in the US....interactions with police increase when criminal actions increase and when violence is involved there's more likely going to be a shooting.



I don't buy that America is as racist as everyone says it is....is there racism? YES. Is it rampant White on Black racism? I don't buy it...I know there IS racism, but rampant froathing at the mouth fire hose and attack dogs and lynchings and cross burnings....nah, nah I don't buy that at all. I think that minorities are a hell of a lot more racist than they get credit for as well....I still don't think there's the rampant violent racism among any group unless you throw in the gang warfare in places like LA where it's black on brown and vice versa...otherwise nah, I believe in the goodness of the American people.