Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
You used TBRB ratings to highlight Lipinets worth, now you're saying their ratings are worthless? Fair enough, I was just using the source you provided.

I don't see Loma's razor-thin loss, in his 2nd pro fight and first go at 12 rounds as a negative, I believe it only highlights the superior level he has operated at.

You're argument is ("the big one") - Mikey's record is boosted by his win over Salido who beat Loma. Well if that's the case you can argue everyone who has beat Salido is better than Loma. Salido has lost a dozen or so times.

My point is - Loma has beat better fighters than Salido, much better. I don't need excuses or explanations, quite simply Rigo, Linares and Walters are superior opposition to Salido, who is nothing more than Roman Martinez level, a man Loma subsequently annihilated after Martinez beat Salido.

Mikey is a great fighter without a standout/signature win, hence he doesn't currently top any reputable P4P raankings after winning four titles in four divisions and going 40 fights unbeaten.
I said some publications had Lipnets rated highly and used the TBRB as an example as I think they had him #2. I said I thought he was bottom half of the top 10 at 140. I don't think much of their ratings.

Salido was #1 at feather when Mikey fought him.

And what I mean by 'the big one' is that Loma lost.

If Loma had fought Rigo at 126 it may have counted for more in my eyes.

Linares had already been blown out and had been playing it safe with his opposition.

I don't really pay P4P much mind, as I said, it's too subjective. I never said Mikey was #1 P4P. There are probably 5/6 guys at the moment that you could make an argument for the #1 spot.