Undisputed?

[Alpha]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

[Master]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

[Alpha]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

You have to accept the official decision, but you don't have to agree with it. Take a fight you thought one guy won but didn't get the nod, did you think the guy who won was better?

[powerpuncher]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

[powerpuncher]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

[Ron Swanson]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

[Master]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

No point responding to you if you know what it is obi wan kenobi.

[Beanz]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

No point responding to you if you know what it is obi wan kenobi.

Obi Ron Kenobi surely

[Ron Swanson]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

No point responding to you if you know what it is obi wan kenobi.

Appreciate you admitting your own logic swallows itself rather than bringing the hypocrisy. Now I know how to finally get you to admit something completely obvious

[Master]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

No point responding to you if you know what it is obi wan kenobi.

Appreciate you admitting your own logic swallows itself rather than bringing the hypocrisy. Now I know how to finally get you to admit something completely obvious

Good. Tell me now so that I can know.

[powerpuncher]

Our to ask the question another way, what divisions have the most debate/ dispute/ competition for the #1 spot?

Welter for example, has Thurman, Spence, Crawford etc. You could add Porter to the mix should he defeat Danny Garcia, as Porter's loss to Thurman could have really gone either way.

I do not think you can count close decisions that you disagree with as losses. Golovkin won the fight. Thurman won his fight. They are and were undisputed at their weight.

If you think one guy beat the other, then there has to be a dispute about who is the best.

Close fight have to go with judges and official decisions otherwise you would get too many disputes.

Nope, and I can prove you don’t even agree with what you’re saying.

By your own standards GGG is not clear number 1 because he had a close fight and the judges didn’t rule in his (Canelo) favor yet you put him as number 1.

Your response will also be hypocritical, I know what it is and I’ll wait for it.

No point responding to you if you know what it is obi wan kenobi.

Appreciate you admitting your own logic swallows itself rather than bringing the hypocrisy. Now I know how to finally get you to admit something completely obvious

Good. Tell me now so that I can know.

Take off your clothes first then he will tell you