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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Canelo
    GGG
    Jacobs
    Saunders
    Charlo

    As you have to respect the f@cking judges decision.
    I think the point of this is to say who YOU rank despite judges


    I'd have to agree, @Master

    At least that's how I looked at it. The judges decision means nothing to me. I thought GGG won both fights. No way i'm putting him below Canelo on my personal list.
    Then some people may have Jacobs top and that seems wrong.

    If they feel Jacobs should've gotten the nod over GGG then so be it. It's our own personal choices and opinions. Canelo lost TWICE to GGG only to have decisions taken away from him. Canelo's lucky to make the top 5 with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Respect all your opinions but I will abstain because to me there are too many unanswered questions in boxing right now.

    For example I think Charlo might be the best MW in the world, or he might be number 7
    All good Ron, would love to have your rankings on any of the divisions if you want, the more votes, the more spread the rankings will be, and helps break any ties. A top 3 is minimum. However you currently rank them.

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    Canelo
    GGG
    Jacobs
    Saunders
    Charlo

    As you have to respect the f@cking judges decision.
    I think the point of this is to say who YOU rank despite judges


    I'd have to agree, @Master

    At least that's how I looked at it. The judges decision means nothing to me. I thought GGG won both fights. No way i'm putting him below Canelo on my personal list.
    Then some people may have Jacobs top and that seems wrong.

    If they feel Jacobs should've gotten the nod over GGG then so be it. It's our own personal choices and opinions. Canelo lost TWICE to GGG only to have decisions taken away from him. Canelo's lucky to make the top 5 with me.
    Yea depends on how you rank guys. I think me and Master follow the official decisions when ranking in division, more so than P4P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Respect all your opinions but I will abstain because to me there are too many unanswered questions in boxing right now.

    For example I think Charlo might be the best MW in the world, or he might be number 7
    All good Ron, would love to have your rankings on any of the divisions if you want, the more votes, the more spread the rankings will be, and helps break any ties. A top 3 is minimum. However you currently rank them.

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    Canelo
    GGG
    Jacobs
    Saunders
    Charlo

    As you have to respect the f@cking judges decision.
    I think the point of this is to say who YOU rank despite judges


    I'd have to agree, @Master

    At least that's how I looked at it. The judges decision means nothing to me. I thought GGG won both fights. No way i'm putting him below Canelo on my personal list.
    Then some people may have Jacobs top and that seems wrong.

    If they feel Jacobs should've gotten the nod over GGG then so be it. It's our own personal choices and opinions. Canelo lost TWICE to GGG only to have decisions taken away from him. Canelo's lucky to make the top 5 with me.
    Yea depends on how you rank guys. I think me and Master follow the official decisions when ranking in division, more so than P4P.
    I think in “official” rankings you have to have the outcome count. With these rankings, I’m just going off of who I think is the best despite what I consider bad scoring. For example, when Bradley “beat” Pacquiao, I wouldn’t rank Bradley higher in the division because he obviously wasn’t better. The judges were just blind.

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    115:
    Wangek
    Estrada
    Gonzalez
    Ioka
    Ancajas


    Would love more votes on heavy, light-heavy, super-middle, welter, feather from anyone who hasn't already voted on these weights.
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    I'll try the ones I can remember.. Probably won't make a perfect list as I don't watch absolutely everything.


    Hw
    Joshua
    Whyte
    Wilder
    Fury tyson
    Povetkin

    Cruiserweight.

    Usyk
    Breidis
    Glowacki

    Lhw.
    Bivol
    The russian geezer nicknamed the nail, I forget his name
    Kovalev(he's still good but I may be well wrong with this one)
    Buatsi


    Smw
    Groves
    Smith
    Ramirez

    Middleweight
    Alvarez
    Golovkin
    Saunders
    Jacobs

    154
    Hurd
    Lara munguia
    I've actually not seen the Charlo fellows in action yet :S

    147
    Crawford(i think he is a controlled evil force in a great frame, what a guy)
    The third earl of Spence..
    Pacman(he's still got something left).
    Porter
    Thurmam


    Now I'm forgetting who is at what weight now :S....

    Whatever weight lomachenko is

    1. Lomachenko.
    2. M garcia (I think they are around the same weight).
    3.Gervonta davis
    .


    The hbo super flyweight cards(I think inoue moved up)

    Sor rungvisai
    Estrada
    Roman Gonzalez (hard to say with him he looked like he was really getting back into the swing of things but his opponent was busy planning on becoming an uber driver).
    Ioka
    Not sure on past that, could have nietes or palcite or mcwilliams arroyo or kal yafai....


    The rest I'm really not qualified enough to rate properly... I would say inoue is king of whatever weight class he's in now(these halflings move weight so quickly sometimes). Everytime I've seem he looks to be a monster

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    I'll try the ones I can remember.. Probably won't make a perfect list as I don't watch absolutely everything.


    Hw
    Joshua
    Whyte
    Wilder
    Fury tyson
    Povetkin

    Cruiserweight.

    Usyk
    Breidis
    Glowacki

    Lhw.
    Bivol
    The russian geezer nicknamed the nail, I forget his name
    Kovalev(he's still good but I may be well wrong with this one)
    Buatsi


    Smw
    Groves
    Smith
    Ramirez

    Middleweight
    Alvarez
    Golovkin
    Saunders
    Jacobs

    154
    Hurd
    Lara munguia
    I've actually not seen the Charlo fellows in action yet :S

    147
    Crawford(i think he is a controlled evil force in a great frame, what a guy)
    The third earl of Spence..
    Pacman(he's still got something left).
    Porter
    Thurmam


    Now I'm forgetting who is at what weight now :S....

    Whatever weight lomachenko is

    1. Lomachenko.
    2. M garcia (I think they are around the same weight).
    3.Gervonta davis
    .


    The hbo super flyweight cards(I think inoue moved up)

    Sor rungvisai
    Estrada
    Roman Gonzalez (hard to say with him he looked like he was really getting back into the swing of things but his opponent was busy planning on becoming an uber driver).
    Ioka
    Not sure on past that, could have nietes or palcite or mcwilliams arroyo or kal yafai....


    The rest I'm really not qualified enough to rate properly... I would say inoue is king of whatever weight class he's in now(these halflings move weight so quickly sometimes). Everytime I've seem he looks to be a monster
    Awesome mate, thanks so much for taking the time to reply.

    OK so Loma and Garcia are at Lightweight. Davis is at 130. So if you can give me 1 more lightweight (3 is the minimum for accepted votes) and have a look at 130 I can add these on.

    Inoue is at bantam, if you could give me 2 more bantams I can add these as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    I'll try the ones I can remember.. Probably won't make a perfect list as I don't watch absolutely everything.


    Hw
    Joshua
    Whyte
    Wilder
    Fury tyson
    Povetkin

    Cruiserweight.

    Usyk
    Breidis
    Glowacki

    Lhw.
    Bivol
    The russian geezer nicknamed the nail, I forget his name
    Kovalev(he's still good but I may be well wrong with this one)
    Buatsi


    Smw
    Groves
    Smith
    Ramirez

    Middleweight
    Alvarez
    Golovkin
    Saunders
    Jacobs

    154
    Hurd
    Lara munguia
    I've actually not seen the Charlo fellows in action yet :S

    147
    Crawford(i think he is a controlled evil force in a great frame, what a guy)
    The third earl of Spence..
    Pacman(he's still got something left).
    Porter
    Thurmam


    Now I'm forgetting who is at what weight now :S....

    Whatever weight lomachenko is

    1. Lomachenko.
    2. M garcia (I think they are around the same weight).
    3.Gervonta davis
    .


    The hbo super flyweight cards(I think inoue moved up)

    Sor rungvisai
    Estrada
    Roman Gonzalez (hard to say with him he looked like he was really getting back into the swing of things but his opponent was busy planning on becoming an uber driver).
    Ioka
    Not sure on past that, could have nietes or palcite or mcwilliams arroyo or kal yafai....


    The rest I'm really not qualified enough to rate properly... I would say inoue is king of whatever weight class he's in now(these halflings move weight so quickly sometimes). Everytime I've seem he looks to be a monster
    Awesome mate, thanks so much for taking the time to reply.

    OK so Loma and Garcia are at Lightweight. Davis is at 130. So if you can give me 1 more lightweight (3 is the minimum for accepted votes) and have a look at 130 I can add these on.

    Inoue is at bantam, if you could give me 2 more bantams I can add these as well.
    OK will do,

    Had to look up boxrec to see who is where.


    135
    Lomachenko
    Garcia
    Linares

    130
    Davis
    Berchelt
    Vargas

    Inoue weight

    Inoue
    Inoue
    Inoue:S
    Tete
    Cuadras(on his day he can be tip top, might be a bad ranking otherwise)....

    I mean nagoya inoue times 3 and not his brother.. want to emphasize how great inoue has looked so far.


    I have excluded Rigondeuax as I don't know if he is still going and it really looked like lomachenko beat a lot out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    I'll try the ones I can remember.. Probably won't make a perfect list as I don't watch absolutely everything.

    Lhw.
    Bivol
    The russian geezer nicknamed the nail, I forget his name
    Kovalev(he's still good but I may be well wrong with this one)
    Buatsi
    Kov was recently knocked out by Eleider Alvarez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    I'll try the ones I can remember.. Probably won't make a perfect list as I don't watch absolutely everything.

    Lhw.
    Bivol
    The russian geezer nicknamed the nail, I forget his name
    Kovalev(he's still good but I may be well wrong with this one)
    Buatsi
    Kov was recently knocked out by Eleider Alvarez.
    Yes I know but I think he got his conditioning wrong and he's going to come back hard. I don't rate Colombian Canadian alvarez too much. So I'm sticking with Kovalev 3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Would love more votes on heavy, light-heavy, super-middle, welter, feather from anyone who hasn't already voted on these weights.

    I am specifically picking my best 5 fighters per division. For example - i've eliminated faded old boys with justifiable formlines to rank high - Kovalev, Stevenson and Degale for young guys who I think would beat them.

    Heavyweight

    1. AJ
    2. Povetkin
    3. Wilder
    4. Whyte
    5. Fury

    light-heavy

    1. Eleider Alvarez
    2. Dmitry Bivol
    3. Artur Beterbiev
    4. Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    5. Badou Jack

    super-middle

    1. George Groves
    2. David Benavidez
    3. Callum Smith
    4. Jose Uzcategui
    5. Chris Eubank Jr

    welter

    1. Errol Spence Jr
    2. Terence Crawford
    3. Keith Thurman
    4. Shaun Porter
    5. Danny Garcia

    feather

    1. Carl Frampton
    2. Leo Santa Cruz
    3. Oscar Valdez
    4. Gary Russell Jr.
    5. Genesis Servania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Would love more votes on heavy, light-heavy, super-middle, welter, feather from anyone who hasn't already voted on these weights.

    I am specifically picking my best 5 fighters per division. For example - i've eliminated faded old boys with justifiable formlines to rank high - Kovalev, Stevenson and Degale for young guys who I think would beat them.

    Heavyweight

    1. AJ
    2. Povetkin
    3. Wilder
    4. Whyte
    5. Fury

    light-heavy

    1. Eleider Alvarez
    2. Dmitry Bivol
    3. Artur Beterbiev
    4. Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    5. Badou Jack

    super-middle

    1. George Groves
    2. David Benavidez
    3. Callum Smith
    4. Jose Uzcategui
    5. Chris Eubank Jr

    welter

    1. Errol Spence Jr
    2. Terence Crawford
    3. Keith Thurman
    4. Shaun Porter
    5. Danny Garcia

    feather

    1. Carl Frampton
    2. Leo Santa Cruz
    3. Oscar Valdez
    4. Gary Russell Jr.
    5. Genesis Servania
    Two interesting things. First, no Ramirez at super middle? And second, Thurman is still in your rankings?

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    I’m just not super impressed by Alvarez at LHW. He did beat Kovalev fair and square, but I didn’t think he looked that impressive in previous fights and was definitely losing the fight before he landed his big shot. I think he loses to the other Russians and Ukrainians in the division

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Would love more votes on heavy, light-heavy, super-middle, welter, feather from anyone who hasn't already voted on these weights.

    I am specifically picking my best 5 fighters per division. For example - i've eliminated faded old boys with justifiable formlines to rank high - Kovalev, Stevenson and Degale for young guys who I think would beat them.

    Heavyweight

    1. AJ
    2. Povetkin
    3. Wilder
    4. Whyte
    5. Fury

    light-heavy

    1. Eleider Alvarez
    2. Dmitry Bivol
    3. Artur Beterbiev
    4. Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    5. Badou Jack

    super-middle

    1. George Groves
    2. David Benavidez
    3. Callum Smith
    4. Jose Uzcategui
    5. Chris Eubank Jr

    welter

    1. Errol Spence Jr
    2. Terence Crawford
    3. Keith Thurman
    4. Shaun Porter
    5. Danny Garcia

    feather

    1. Carl Frampton
    2. Leo Santa Cruz
    3. Oscar Valdez
    4. Gary Russell Jr.
    5. Genesis Servania
    Two interesting things. First, no Ramirez at super middle? And second, Thurman is still in your rankings?
    Well Thurman will be back soon and barring Spence and Crawford I'd pick him over Pac, who would have been in my five.

    I don't think much of Ramirez, I purposely put Eubank Jr no.5 because I think stylistically he would batter him.

    Remember I was picking my five best per division not who deserves a high ranking.
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