Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
I don't make the data Tito. Peterson and Harris have interpreted the same things from the existing research too, so it is not only me. These men are far more knowledgeable than I. You are also misepresenting my arguments. I have said that I would like it to be environmental, but we cannot rule out that genetics are at work. It seems that genetics might well be a factor. Global IQ is falling not rising. The smarter the population is the less children they are likely to have. It is falling because less intelligent people have far less restraint and it seems generational patterns repeat more often than they do not.

You get smart and stupid people in every country, it's just that some countries have more or less than others. If there are no differences in race then why are Asian students having to sue Harvard because they are seemingly being pushed out due to racist quota systems for other races? They are smart, Tito.

If it is all about the family and environment then why are we promoting family situations that can only make non Asians even less competitive? Cultural Marxism reduces downwards instead of aspiring upwards and rewards poor behavior that results in yet more IQ differentials. Now that is my take on it. Even North Koreans have an average IQ of 105.

The Marxist attitude is that it is all economic, the cultural Marxist that it is environmental, the logical one is that it is a bit of both but maybe even some genetics and good old nutrition too. Inbreeding which is quite prevalent in the Middle East will also result in physical and mental decline. Kids who are not breast fed also risk losing intellectual capacity. All kinds of factors at work. So, yes, it seems differences do exist. I cannot help that being so. It doesn't bother me. It seems to have you in a tizzy though.
You are all over the shop here mate. Firstly you are not less knowledgeable than Peterson and Harris on this. That is something they are relying on you believing but it need not be true.

If in doubt go to the source. Peterson and Harris are talking about The Bell Curve yes?. It's author Murray is not only part of a conservative think tank his Phd is in Politics not sociology (and surely Reverend Peterson has banned Sociology as a soft science taught by Marxists anyway?). Murray's agenda seeps right thru it. He has reached his conclusions long before cobbling together a lot of the discredited 'science'. Read the Cultural Marxism thread becasue all you are doing is repeating christian capitalist propaganda and defending an elite based on corruption and nepotism not intelligence and achievement. Next you will be telling us how all the Windsors and Trumps are there because of high IQ's.

IQ's are a comfy prop for those who excel in them but they do not predict success even.

Thanks for pretending that my IQ (which is probably incredibly low believe it or not) was inherited from Gyspy Genes but there are no Ashkenazi in my family. The Jewish side goes back from Spain/Sicily/Morroco/Iraq/Egypt thru Sephardic and Karaite Jews.

Also my full siblings are thick as shit, my half siblings are not.