Forum voted divisional rankings 20 September 2018

[smashup]

I don't really follow the little guy divisions but from Bantam upwards that list is pretty much bang on.

[powerpuncher]

Nice. How often are we updating the list?

[Ron Swanson]

Good list. Some places it leans towards accomplishment, some places it leans towards ability.

My only complaint would probably be Canelo. But even that you can say “the judges said...”. Just, my thinking is Charlo, Jacobs and Saunders would probably all beat him so what gets his rating, only the judges decisions? It’s not REALLY accomplishment or ability. Unless he still has more than we’ve seen. Which is possible

[powerpuncher]

Good list. Some places it leans towards accomplishment, some places it leans towards ability.

My only complaint would probably be Canelo. But even that you can say “the judges said...”. Just, my thinking is Charlo, Jacobs and Saunders would probably all beat him so what gets his rating, only the judges decisions? It’s not REALLY accomplishment or ability. Unless he still has more than we’ve seen. Which is possible

I think the same thing. Everyone votes in their own way so it’s tough to evaluate it perfectly, but it seems like a solid list either way.

[Alpha]

Nice. How often are we updating the list?

I was initially thinking monthly, but not much may have happened. Maybe every 3 months or so? Thoughts?

Good list. Some places it leans towards accomplishment, some places it leans towards ability.

My only complaint would probably be Canelo. But even that you can say “the judges said...”. Just, my thinking is Charlo, Jacobs and Saunders would probably all beat him so what gets his rating, only the judges decisions? It’s not REALLY accomplishment or ability. Unless he still has more than we’ve seen. Which is possible

To be fair, he just fought a very close fight (some feel he won) with a guy most of us would included among the P4P and more than likely a 1st ballot HOFer. Personally I feel he is at least 50/50 with those 3 you mentioned. Some credit has to be given to his improvement and ability. Then you could also argue that he has officially won the lineal title, as well as multiple belts in the division. Some decent accomplishments.

Hold on wait, stop making defend Canelo

Hope to see your votes on the next one.

[Alpha]

Some surprises for me:

Whyte taking the 3rd spot at heavy.

Stevenson didn't make the top 5 at 175.

How highly folks consider Davis.

A few key divisions (in my opinion) didn't receive many votes.

More votes next time please guys.

[Ron Swanson]

Some surprises for me:

Whyte taking the 3rd spot at heavy.

Stevenson didn't make the top 5 at 175.

How highly folks consider Davis.

A few key divisions (in my opinion) didn't receive many votes.

More votes next time please guys.

I think Davis falls under the ability platform because if he got his head out of his arse he would be the best there.

Whyte I think comes in under the Tyson has been out qualification. Although I would pick Ortiz with quite a confident feeling, it’s not my vote and it’s not out of line

Interesting thing about Stevenson is no him and no Jack even though Jack had demonstrated he was best at 168, you’d think that would carry some clout. But again, not out of line considering Stevenson’s age and Jack just arrived on the scene. Maybe people think that fight was close because of Stevenson slipping rather than Jack’s quality. It’s possible.

[Ron Swanson]

Nice. How often are we updating the list?

I was initially thinking monthly, but not much may have happened. Maybe every 3 months or so? Thoughts?

Good list. Some places it leans towards accomplishment, some places it leans towards ability.

My only complaint would probably be Canelo. But even that you can say “the judges said...”. Just, my thinking is Charlo, Jacobs and Saunders would probably all beat him so what gets his rating, only the judges decisions? It’s not REALLY accomplishment or ability. Unless he still has more than we’ve seen. Which is possible

To be fair, he just fought a very close fight (some feel he won) with a guy most of us would included among the P4P and more than likely a 1st ballot HOFer. Personally I feel he is at least 50/50 with those 3 you mentioned. Some credit has to be given to his improvement and ability. Then you could also argue that he has officially won the lineal title, as well as multiple belts in the division. Some decent accomplishments.

Hold on wait, stop making defend Canelo

Hope to see your votes on the next one.

I watched the Jacobs fight again today and having done so I feel confident saying Jacobs fought a completely different fighter.(still think Jacobs clearly won) GGG was far more explosive. It could be that GGG is just faster and more coordinated going forward but I think there is more going on.

Keep saying it, uncomfortable saying it every time I do, I really think Charlo may be the best MW in the world right now. The length, speed, power in both hands. I said GGG was the best before he was a champion so I should be more comfortable saying Charlo might be. But there is this doubt “what about when he meets resistance?”

[Alpha]

You could be right about Charlo, although for me he seems currently stuck in limbo. Needs to start fighting some decent guys. Getting left out in the cold at the moment.