Forum voted divisional rankings 20 September 2018

**powerpuncher** · 09-22-2018 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by Alpha

Some surprises for me:

Whyte taking the 3rd spot at heavy.

Stevenson didn't make the top 5 at 175.

How highly folks consider Davis.

A few key divisions (in my opinion) didn't receive many votes.

More votes next time please guys.

I think Davis falls under the ability platform because if he got his head out of his arse he would be the best there.

Whyte I think comes in under the Tyson has been out qualification. Although I would pick Ortiz with quite a confident feeling, it’s not my vote and it’s not out of line

Interesting thing about Stevenson is no him and no Jack even though Jack had demonstrated he was best at 168, you’d think that would carry some clout. But again, not out of line considering Stevenson’s age and Jack just arrived on the scene. Maybe people think that fight was close because of Stevenson slipping rather than Jack’s quality. It’s possible.

Davis to me has proven to be the top 130 pounder because that division isn’t great. Berchelt is the only guy who you could put ahead of him.

It’s not that I think that Stevenson is awful, but LHW is a really good division at the moment. Jack is a good fighter but not great. I don’t see Jack beating the Russians and Ukrainians.

**Alpha** · 09-22-2018 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Great list... and good idea you had, Alpha. Way overdue. I'd list the top five would be my only comment. We voted for 5, so it would be nice to see the top 5. Updating it every 2-3 months sounds about right.

We can do top 5 if everyone wants, I just thought taking the top 3 trims the fat from the lamb and gives us the cream of the crop

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by Alpha

Some surprises for me:

Whyte taking the 3rd spot at heavy.

Stevenson didn't make the top 5 at 175.

How highly folks consider Davis.

A few key divisions (in my opinion) didn't receive many votes.

More votes next time please guys.

I think Davis falls under the ability platform because if he got his head out of his arse he would be the best there.

Whyte I think comes in under the Tyson has been out qualification. Although I would pick Ortiz with quite a confident feeling, it’s not my vote and it’s not out of line

Interesting thing about Stevenson is no him and no Jack even though Jack had demonstrated he was best at 168, you’d think that would carry some clout. But again, not out of line considering Stevenson’s age and Jack just arrived on the scene. Maybe people think that fight was close because of Stevenson slipping rather than Jack’s quality. It’s possible.

Davis to me has proven to be the top 130 pounder because that division isn’t great. Berchelt is the only guy who you could put ahead of him.

It’s not that I think that Stevenson is awful, but LHW is a really good division at the moment. Jack is a good fighter but not great. I don’t see Jack beating the Russians and Ukrainians.

I still not totally sold on Davis, don't get me wrong he's an excellent talent, how he broke Pedraza down was superb. It's more the outside the right influences that he is teetering on that concern me. Berchelt does have that blemish on his record but he is now an improved fighter. Machado showed against Corrales that he belongs, and now Ito bangs his way into the mix. Add to that Farmer a there's the beginnings of a decent 130 pound WBSS tourney.

**Fenster** · 09-22-2018 11:18 PM

I would have Rosales in at flyweight, even with a loss to Selby, and Nery throws a spanner in at bantam.

And Loma should be above Mikey at 135.

**Alpha** · 09-23-2018 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Fenster

I would have Rosales in at flyweight, even with a loss to Selby, and Nery throws a spanner in at bantam.

And Loma should be above Mikey at 135.

Would have loved to have got your votes on flyweight and bantam.

Selby beat Rosales clear, it was a closer fight than the scorecards suggest and Rosales put Selby down in the 1st, but Selby won. Rosales has that quality win over Higa, but again, Higa was struggling to make weight for that fight. I've got to have Selby ahead at this stage, he has been inactive tho.

Nery at bantam is interesting, he might be back next time.

**Alpha** · 09-23-2018 02:27 AM

Only 1 of the 4 (yourself) that voted on 135 had Loma ahead.

**Spicoli** · 09-23-2018 03:38 PM

Good stuff bud. I missed a number of the votes but might have Taylor over Prograis. 140 is about to have a ton of shake up though and should be very good. As much as we may say it through clenched teeth Canelo holds a win

over Golovkin and showed he can adjust a bit. Had it been an out right robbery to majority I can see an asterisk "win" and second place but just me. And he's still a spoiled cheat

. On potential and ability Charlo for me takes them all but you have to have those miles logged win or lose and so far at 160 he's demolished a one legged fighter who shouldn't have been in there and beat up a showcase opponent. Have you considered a top 5? Might round it off a bit with just misses like Ortiz or Stevenson. Awesome work Alpha.

**Beanz** · 09-23-2018 03:56 PM

Class Idea Alpha. Thanks for putting the work in. Makes a big difference to the forum. Sorry I missed the first vote thread but will be sure to vote in the next one.

**Alpha** · 09-23-2018 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Good stuff bud. I missed a number of the votes but might have Taylor over Prograis. 140 is about to have a ton of shake up though and should be very good. As much as we may say it through clenched teeth Canelo holds a win

over Golovkin and showed he can adjust a bit. Had it been an out right robbery to majority I can see an asterisk "win" and second place but just me. And he's still a spoiled cheat

. On potential and ability Charlo for me takes them all but you have to have those miles logged win or lose and so far at 160 he's demolished a one legged fighter who shouldn't have been in there and beat up a showcase opponent. Have you considered a top 5? Might round it off a bit with just misses like Ortiz or Stevenson. Awesome work Alpha.

Appreciate the votes you did make. Next time, the more the better.

It has been interesting to see how others see the divisions.

I have extended the rankings to top 5, as there have been a couple of requests.

I also discovered that I had made an error in calculations for Light-heavy. The correct 175 rankings are now updated.

Originally Posted by Beanz

Class Idea Alpha. Thanks for putting the work in. Makes a big difference to the forum. Sorry I missed the first vote thread but will be sure to vote in the next one.

Cheers Beanz, look forward to your votes on the next one. I'm might even collect top 5 P4P votes in the next one.

**Alpha** · 09-27-2018 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

might have Taylor over Prograis.

Just wanted to touch on this as well. I have Prograis ove Taylor currently, although I feel Taylor has the perfect style to defeat Prograis, but that is not an easy fight for either guy.

I wanted to give Prograis a little props, I was going to start a thread on it, but I'll post it here instead.

A lot of the things Prograis does (especially on offense) is highly underrated, as is the case with many outstanding fighters today. Fans should be focusing on fighters and fights.

Although Prograis keeps his hands low, if you watch him when he is coming forward, his head movement is fantastic. He is always keeping that head of the line, with faints, pivots, changing levels etc. Top quality stuff.