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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
    Has he announced an opponent? Just look at what has happened, GGG has petitioned the WBC for the option to skip Charlo, he has contacted Saunders and Andrade’s people for if the WBC refuses to allow him to skip Charlo. It seems we must accept that they meant it when they said they would never fight Charlo.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
    Has he announced an opponent? Just look at what has happened, GGG has petitioned the WBC for the option to skip Charlo, he has contacted Saunders and Andrade’s people for if the WBC refuses to allow him to skip Charlo. It seems we must accept that they meant it when they said they would never fight Charlo.
    Again, wasn't it Sanchez who said they wouldn't fight Charlo?

    The Saunders/Andrade and Jacobs/Derevy winners are bigger, better, more relevant fights in my opinion. What's Charlo's best win at 160? And if he can make millions against Canelo again, why would he bother with Jermall?

    Also the Haymon/Oscar beef could also make negotiations frustrating.

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    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Jacobs has the size and movement to give Canelo grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
    Has he announced an opponent? Just look at what has happened, GGG has petitioned the WBC for the option to skip Charlo, he has contacted Saunders and Andrade’s people for if the WBC refuses to allow him to skip Charlo. It seems we must accept that they meant it when they said they would never fight Charlo.
    Again, wasn't it Sanchez who said they wouldn't fight Charlo?

    The Saunders/Andrade and Jacobs/Derevy winners are bigger, better, more relevant fights in my opinion. What's Charlo's best win at 160? And if he can make millions against Canelo again, why would he bother with Jermall?

    Also the Haymon/Oscar beef could also make negotiations frustrating.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Jacobs has the size and movement to give Canelo grief.
    Yes, Sanchez sang that song all around town and nobody stopped him. If your buddy tells the girls you are talking to you don’t have a girlfriend and you don’t refute it you have backed the statement.

    I’m not sure what Oscar/Harmon has to do with negotiations on GGG/Charlo. Did Oscar get rights to GGG out of the fight agreement with Canelo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
    Has he announced an opponent? Just look at what has happened, GGG has petitioned the WBC for the option to skip Charlo, he has contacted Saunders and Andrade’s people for if the WBC refuses to allow him to skip Charlo. It seems we must accept that they meant it when they said they would never fight Charlo.
    Again, wasn't it Sanchez who said they wouldn't fight Charlo?

    The Saunders/Andrade and Jacobs/Derevy winners are bigger, better, more relevant fights in my opinion. What's Charlo's best win at 160? And if he can make millions against Canelo again, why would he bother with Jermall?

    Also the Haymon/Oscar beef could also make negotiations frustrating.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Jacobs has the size and movement to give Canelo grief.
    Yes, Sanchez sang that song all around town and nobody stopped him. If your buddy tells the girls you are talking to you don’t have a girlfriend and you don’t refute it you have backed the statement.

    I’m not sure what Oscar/Harmon has to do with negotiations on GGG/Charlo. Did Oscar get rights to GGG out of the fight agreement with Canelo?
    So GGG never said that he won't fight Jermall?

    All I've ever seen Gennady say, is 'of course' he would fight Charlo. So I'm not sure where your getting that he hasn't.

    I was meaning if a Canelo/Charlo fight had to be negotiated, if GGG went another direction, the negotiations could be tedious. No sure that's a problem anymore, if Canelo stays at 168.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
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    I don't think it's possible for Charlo to face GGG before the end of the year. I could be wrong, but GGG just came out of a very physical fight, and I also don't think Charlo would take that fight coming off only 2 rounds in the ring over the last 18 months.

    I'm only saying the end of the year because Jermall stated his next fight was in December. If that's the case, it'll more than likely be a tune up type opponent. If that happens, a possible GGG fight gets pushed to around March or April. Leaving neither with enough time for a May fight with Canelo. September would work.

    Add in that Oscar was talking about the GGG trilogy being an option, I can see the WBC doing whatever Canelo and Oscar request.

    I think Showtime is the obvious choice for GGG to land, but I'm no expert and have no idea what offers he has been receiving.

    I not so sure how accurate the statement "The Charlo fight is set to go" is.
    Has he announced an opponent? Just look at what has happened, GGG has petitioned the WBC for the option to skip Charlo, he has contacted Saunders and Andrade’s people for if the WBC refuses to allow him to skip Charlo. It seems we must accept that they meant it when they said they would never fight Charlo.
    Again, wasn't it Sanchez who said they wouldn't fight Charlo?

    The Saunders/Andrade and Jacobs/Derevy winners are bigger, better, more relevant fights in my opinion. What's Charlo's best win at 160? And if he can make millions against Canelo again, why would he bother with Jermall?

    Also the Haymon/Oscar beef could also make negotiations frustrating.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Jacobs has the size and movement to give Canelo grief.
    Yes, Sanchez sang that song all around town and nobody stopped him. If your buddy tells the girls you are talking to you don’t have a girlfriend and you don’t refute it you have backed the statement.

    I’m not sure what Oscar/Harmon has to do with negotiations on GGG/Charlo. Did Oscar get rights to GGG out of the fight agreement with Canelo?
    So GGG never said that he won't fight Jermall?

    All I've ever seen Gennady say, is 'of course' he would fight Charlo. So I'm not sure where your getting that he hasn't.

    I was meaning if a Canelo/Charlo fight had to be negotiated, if GGG went another direction, the negotiations could be tedious. No sure that's a problem anymore, if Canelo stays at 168.
    Well, okay, so GGG allowed Sanchez to run all over town saying they would never fight Charlo, he leaves Sanchez so he is not tied to that. So let’s look at his actions and see if they contradict what Sanchez said. WBC orders him to fight Charlo, his response is to file an appeal (already done) to not have to fight Charlo. He also contacts Andrade/Saunders and Derevyanchenko/Jacobs. Great options but does it sound like he wants to fight Charlo?

    Understand I’m not being condescending in the least, I’m asking your opinion, does that sound like he wants to fight Charlo?

    Let me make this perfectly clear because I get the rap of a GGG hater because I have wanted him in tough fights. I think any of Saunders, Jacobs, Derevyanchenko or Charlo is awesome and look forward to it and will have great respect for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?


    Every day and twice on Sundays.
    I don't think Jacobs 'whips' Canelo.

    50/50?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?


    Every day and twice on Sundays.
    I don't think Jacobs 'whips' Canelo.

    50/50?
    I give the edge to Jacobs and think Canelo wins a close controversial decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    anyone else thinking Danny Jacobs could whip Canelo?
    Size right hand speed and attitude would punch holes through most defensive traps Canelo banks on. I think Canelo will come out of Golovkin more stuck between styles and easier to find. He got the win over one 'monster' and now he'll go back into witness protection opponent wise.

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