Russia

[Master]

Amazing. Do they not have treason laws in America anymore ? Falling over yourself to play make believe about the Russians, why? Covering for Trump? mental

OK so you're saying that it should be illegal .... punishable by death no less for me to QUESTION this?

Not you, you can say what you like and question what you like but when Americans in positions of power make deals with people killing their allies you have to wonder what the fuck kind of morals they are operating by.

How do you know for certain that the Russians actually did this and it wasn't some other player attempting to start some shit?


Couldn't oh I don't know Ukraine benefit from the US, UK, et al having big time issues with Russia? Would China like to keep Russia as it's partner by isolating it?


And Sergei Skripal (along with his daughter Yulia) is/are still very much alive....think Russia would be so inept? I mean maybe they would be, mistakes happen especially in espionage look at the Bay of Pigs for example.

I think the Russian's cocked the assassination attempt up and poisoning is their main way of killing people here in the UK.

[El Kabong]

Emotional? Projection mate. Miles you have always been an easily manipulated sheep. It is why you are are so partisan on things like this. For you it's all a conspiracy because then you can pretend to be better than everyone else with your special inside Alex Jones level knowledge. Ha! It's the same with Lyle and the Q thing, in the real world you soyboy troll theories are laughable. You seem to think,
'Well now that the world turns out to be more complex than I thought it must mean the good guys are the bad guys and vica versa because that simplifies it again for me'. Pathetic. Meanwhile ordinary people can quite clearly see the wolves on all sides. Go put your head in the Jaws of Putin and your gimp suit on for Murray and all the other Eton toffs laughing at you.

Thanks for keeping it cordial...I mean I guess when I decided to be nice that was just a cue for you to start back trying to slam me.

Yes yes, I'm pathetic for not going along with your reality. Yup pure pathetic from me, not agreeing 110% with you. I'm sorry for that, maybe one day I'll learn

I think the Russian's cocked the assassination attempt up and poisoning is their main way of killing people here in the UK.

OK and hell it very well could be a botched assassination attempt.


What other poisonings have there been in England that Russia has done? What evidence is there?


Espionage and the spy game that's a tricky area...government secrets...that's a tricky area...think we average citizens know 100% of what is going on? I mean I don't think so. I know I don't know what the fuck is going on in the deepest darkest corners of government. The CIA, MI6, the GRU/KGB.

Hell the FBI (and others) are engaged in a silent (not so silent to folks who get their news from alternative sources, but silent to those who watch the mainstream media) coup of President Trump....the proofs provided are the firings of various people associated with the Clinton Email scandal and Trump-Russia collusion investigation. Also the FAILING New York Times got hold of part of Trump's taxes and guess what......0 mention of Russia, 0 Russian money coming in...that and the firings point in a certain direction and it ain't "Trump colluded with Russia".


I'm not a Putin fan, but I don't blame the guy trying to protect his country from the likes of George Soros....and yeah Soros has a history with England too, but yall never say peep about him, why? He crashed the Pound for fucks sake! https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...forever-2010-6 The killer moment? When Soros found out just how badly his short selling had affected the Bank of England:

"I've learned we've just raised interest rates by two hundred basis points," he said softly--a full two percentage points. Then he rose and shook Smick's hand and left the room running."

But yeah nah yeah it's totally Russia and you know what we should start a shooting war with them, that'll teach 'em!

[Master]

Inside Russia’s long history of poisoning political enemies

https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/inside...tical-enemies/

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-skrip.../29083216.html

[El Kabong]

Inside Russia’s long history of poisoning political enemies

https://nypost.com/2018/06/23/inside...tical-enemies/

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-skrip.../29083216.html

Victor Yushchenko wasn't poisoned in Britain and he lived....maybe it WAS the GRU/KGB but there's the same amount of evidence there as there is for the JFK assassination, we can GUESS but we don't know for absolute certain. Maybe the CIA or MI6 have a better idea but they're clued in on stuff we're not.

What is the goal? What is the end game of the poisonings? Is it to quell vocal critics of Putin? Is it to kill? (because it doesn't work so good if it's to kill) Is it to maim/injure? Is it to send a message?


Alexander Perepilichny - Apparently, instead of sorrel, his soup contained gelsemium, a rare plant found only in remote parts of China and loaded with toxins related to strychnine. He dropped dead while jogging....Is there a tie to Russia using gelsemium which is found in "remote parts of China"?

The journalist Anna Politkovskaya, a vocal critic of Vladimir Putin, became dangerously ill in 2004 after drinking tea on an Aeroflot flight. She survived the poisoning only to be shot while holding bags of groceries in her Moscow apartment building elevator in 2006.....so not in Britain and then not a poisoning which did her in...was it the Russian Mafia? Was it the GRU?


That same year, in London, Putin critic Alexander Litvinenko drank some tea brimming with polonium-210, resulting in such high radiation levels that doctors waited a week before performing an autopsy in hazmat suits.....so the Russians do all this testing and shit to get undetectable poisons into their victims and then they ALSO just outright nuke a guys insides with polonium-210


The Soviets tested the poisons on condemned prisoners, mostly political enemies....worth noting that Skripal was in fact a prisoner in Russia in 2004-2006 when he was pardoned by then President Medvedev. Also worth noting is that Skripal is buddy-buddy with Christopher 'Russian Dossier' Steele.

Worth noting that this type of shit didn't happen under Stalin or Khrushchev or Brezhnev they simply disappeared people, Stalin erased them from memory and history......Putin seems to be half assing things IF he's murdering people.

With the Skripal's I've seen 0 evidence that anyone knows just what the fuck they were poisoned with....Novichuk? Fentanyl? Carfentanyl? Polonium-210? Gelsemium? Dioxin?



I'm not saying that it's IMPOSSIBLE Russia did do this, I'm saying I'm not jumping to conclusions on this because America, England, etc have a vested interest that Russia keep looking like the baddies....and that's fine and all, but other nations and even groups within our respective nations could benefit by Russia being the targeted culprits to rule that out is naive.

[Master]

There was another prominent killing by the Russain but can not find it but here is another one.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ttempt-bristol

So what can UK do? Cannot bomb them so have to go down the route of sanctions.

[El Kabong]

There was another prominent killing by the Russain but can not find it but here is another one.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ttempt-bristol

He was strangled not poisoned...I thought poison was their go to?


I'm open minded as to who gave the order and who did the deed, could be Russia, could be MI6 could be CIA could be MSS could be mercenaries who knows? Nobody has been caught, nobody has been charged.

[Master]

There was another prominent killing by the Russain but can not find it but here is another one.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ttempt-bristol

He was strangled not poisoned...I thought poison was their go to?


I'm open minded as to who gave the order and who did the deed, could be Russia, could be MI6 could be CIA could be MSS could be mercenaries who knows? Nobody has been caught, nobody has been charged.

I think the UK intelligence are reviewing all these deaths and I am sure some of these are related to Russia. A lot of them came over here to flee Putin.