Saunders v Andrade - Boston 20/10/18 - Sky/DAZN - CANCELLED

[Alpha]

Wonder if GGG is keeping it simple by looking to fight the winner of Andrade vs Kautondokwa now or if his plans changed?

He makes more vs Murata in Japan, plus there's the winner of Jacobs/ Derevy. An Andrade fight is almost as irrelevant as a Charlo fight, but at least it would have a world title involved, not some interim rubbish.

[Ron Swanson]

Wonder if GGG is keeping it simple by looking to fight the winner of Andrade vs Kautondokwa now or if his plans changed?

He makes more vs Murata in Japan, plus there's the winner of Jacobs/ Derevy. An Andrade fight is almost as irrelevant as a Charlo fight, but at least it would have a world title involved, not some interim rubbish.

So changing circumstances means nothing because the company line has been the same for over a year “Anyone but Charlo, f’n anyone”. At least they’re consistent.

[Ron Swanson]

In case anyone is having trouble sleeping I give you Marata’s loss to NDam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DqnWNhnJSRg

[Fenster]

In case anyone is having trouble sleeping I give you Marata’s loss to NDam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DqnWNhnJSRg

That won't make people sleep, it's the worst robbery ever, hence the WBA made a public apology and ordered an immediate rematch.

[Alpha]

Wonder if GGG is keeping it simple by looking to fight the winner of Andrade vs Kautondokwa now or if his plans changed?

He makes more vs Murata in Japan, plus there's the winner of Jacobs/ Derevy. An Andrade fight is almost as irrelevant as a Charlo fight, but at least it would have a world title involved, not some interim rubbish.

So changing circumstances means nothing because the company line has been the same for over a year “Anyone but Charlo, f’n anyone”. At least they’re consistent.

Already responded to you in another thread on why Charlo isn't relevant.

I know. Fighters don’t need tough fights, don’t want them. Bring on Murata, set the world on fire. The fight everyone is calling for.

You mean tough fights like Heiland or Centeno? Murata and Charlo are on par at 160, plus GGG probably makes double if not more for Murata. My preference would be Jacobs if he beats Derevy.

Kautondokwa will win KO 2

That would be hilarious.

Again you blame Charlo for GGG not fighting him by calling out his opponents. It’s cute. Like saying GGG isn’t avoiding when he signs a “petition to avoid”. Fun words, let’s have more fun with words. Let’s get your opinion, write it down for us. Do you think Murata is as good as Charlo?

What do you mean as good as? Murata has a belt (about the same worth as Charlo's). He should really be undefeated, the win over N'Jikam is better than Heiland and Cermeno. At 160 there's not a lot of difference in records.

Who do I think wins if they fought now? Charlo.

I've never said Murata was a tougher fight. I said he's more relevant to GGG than Charlo. He can make more, and pick up a title against a guy who, to date has done more than Charlo has at 160.

Why fight Charlo in an eliminator, when you can go straight to a title fight, earning double.

Winning a title is just as much of a guarantee at Canelo, as is winning an eliminator.

And I have already said I would prefer the Jacobs/Derevy winner. I think both those guys are tougher than Charlo.

[Ron Swanson]

The point is GGG is a 36 year old man with a crap CV, he needs to fight tough fighters to be remembered. Murata is as basic as basic can be.

But you keep up supporting GGG fighting lesser competition. I understand that because if one wants to support GGG they learned to support fighting lesser competition years and years ago.

And Murata is not a champion same as Charlo is not a champion. The WBA regular title is meaningless, I know GGG fans have a long history of pretending it matters like when they lie about his number of “major” title defenses. Everyone with a clue knows the WBA regular belt is not a major belt.

Why can’t people just be honest and admit after all the evidence piled on for years and years that GGG gives f all about fights and chases money. That is the only way to excuse this old man with a basic CV chasing ANOTHER basic fighter, any basic fighter while he begs for Canelo to choose him again?

Probably because it’s pathetic

[brocktonblockbust]

I agree with Ron Swanson.

[Alpha]

The point is GGG is a 36 year old man with a crap CV, he needs to fight tough fighters to be remembered. Murata is as basic as basic can be.

But you keep up supporting GGG fighting lesser competition. I understand that because if one wants to support GGG they learned to support fighting lesser competition years and years ago.

And Murata is not a champion same as Charlo is not a champion. The WBA regular title is meaningless, I know GGG fans have a long history of pretending it matters like when they lie about his number of “major” title defenses. Everyone with a clue knows the WBA regular belt is not a major belt.

Why can’t people just be honest and admit after all the evidence piled on for years and years that GGG gives f all about fights and chases money. That is the only way to excuse this old man with a basic CV chasing ANOTHER basic fighter, any basic fighter while he begs for Canelo to choose him again?

Probably because it’s pathetic

Exactly GGG is 36, he needs to take the fights that make him the biggest revenue, it is prize fighting after all and as much as we hate it, boxing these days is more business than sport.

I'm sure you'll agree, it's not the easiest way to make a living. So when I guy finally gets to that bracket, he has earned the right to earn the most he possibly can.

No ones claiming Murata's title is better than Charlo's, in fact I said it's worth about the same, the thing is it gets GGG into the same position as a win over Charlo would, for a hell of a lot more money. You try to claim fighting Charlo guarantees GGG a shot at Canelo, it doesn't, winning Murata's title puts him in the same position with the WBA. Canelo will also be fighting for the WBA's super-middle title which could be helpful for future Canelo negotiations.

I agree with you that GGG is all about the money at this stage of his career, aren't we all? I'm not about supporting GGG fighting lesser competition, I'm about what he thinks is best for his family and future. Legacies don't put kids through college or put food on the table.

As a fan, I have already said, I'd prefer GGG to fight the Jacobs/ Derevy winner. Especially over Charlo. But I'm not the one who has to get in the ring.

If GGG chooses to make big money against Murata (who we agree is probably an easier fight than Charlo, but has arguably fought the better opposition at 160), who am I to judge? The guy takes punches for a living. He can fight who he wants. And lets remember that Canelo is the one doing all the avoiding here (with help from the WBC) and also taking on lesser competition in Fielding. Or should we not point out the obvious?

[Alpha]

Wonder if GGG is keeping it simple by looking to fight the winner of Andrade vs Kautondokwa now or if his plans changed?

He makes more vs Murata in Japan, plus there's the winner of Jacobs/ Derevy. An Andrade fight is almost as irrelevant as a Charlo fight, but at least it would have a world title involved, not some interim rubbish.

So changing circumstances means nothing because the company line has been the same for over a year “Anyone but Charlo, f’n anyone”. At least they’re consistent.

Already responded to you in another thread on why Charlo isn't relevant.

[Ron Swanson]

Wonder if GGG is keeping it simple by looking to fight the winner of Andrade vs Kautondokwa now or if his plans changed?

He makes more vs Murata in Japan, plus there's the winner of Jacobs/ Derevy. An Andrade fight is almost as irrelevant as a Charlo fight, but at least it would have a world title involved, not some interim rubbish.

So changing circumstances means nothing because the company line has been the same for over a year “Anyone but Charlo, f’n anyone”. At least they’re consistent.

Already responded to you in another thread on why Charlo isn't relevant.

I know. Fighters don’t need tough fights, don’t want them. Bring on Murata, set the world on fire. The fight everyone is calling for.