Canelo vs Fielding Dec-15

[Master]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

[Primo Carnera]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

[TitoFan]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

Safely navigating the 160-something waters should be noted as an underrated skill in itself. You steer clear of the great whites and tigers, and go for a few nurse and angel sharks.

[brocktonblockbust]

What disdain

[TitoFan]

What disdain

Colorful disdain though.... you must admit.

[GAME]

Would've preferred clenelo to fight smith instead of the guy he ko'd in 1 round but after back to back fights with Golovkin he deserves an easy fight.

rocky bounced back impressively with that win in Germany and appears to have put the demons behind him from the smith loss. If he lets the occasion get to him again in New York it could end embarrassingly early but if he goes to win and settles into his boxing he has the size and physical advantages to make it a proper fight

[TitoFan]

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/10...urning-to-160/



Decisions, decisions......

So many choices..... so perilous the path.

I can understand Canelo's and GBP's quandary. The Fielding fight is a no-brainer. A sure win against a weak champion to pick up another meaningless weight division title and inflate that legacy-forming number.

But after that? The article explains it very well. Stay at 168 and be seen as running from the elite at 160..... or go back down and blatantly duck the Charlos of the division.

Of course Canelo's going to be undecided. GBP hasn't invested all that money, time, and effort on building up this media darling only to have it all go down in flames from a bad decision.

If it was me.... I'd stall going back down until the 160 dudes kill each other off..... then come prancing back into the division announcing he's ready to take on anybody.

Problem is... staying too long at 168 is liable to bring up guys like Callum Smith and even compatriot Gilberto Ramirez. Probably not a safe place to stall for too long.

Hmmm.... looks like that strategy machinery is going to have to working overtime.

[p4pking]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

[imp]

Canelo didn’t do enough to take those belts..he made quality shots in first fight but never did enough to take those belts.

Same with Andre Ward in the first fight with Kovalev.

No matter how much I prefer a fighter over another fighter I have to be honest.

[Primo Carnera]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. [B][B]He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

we shall see. It'll be interesting to see how he copes with Fielding , as Fielding has all the height and reach advantages that Smith and Groves would have, but is classes below them. Fielding is a British level fighter who got lucky to win a version of a title. Smith blasted Fielding out inside 2 minutes, and I'm not saying Canelo has to do that , but he has to show he can get around Fielding's reach advantage comfortably and be able to make some dents in him.
like you said, he has slow feet, so I'm not sure how he does this.

[Alpha]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. [B][B]He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

we shall see. It'll be interesting to see how he copes with Fielding , as Fielding has all the height and reach advantages that Smith and Groves would have, but is classes below them. Fielding is a British level fighter who got lucky to win a version of a title. Smith blasted Fielding out inside 2 minutes, and I'm not saying Canelo has to do that , but he has to show he can get around Fielding's reach advantage comfortably and be able to make some dents in him.
like you said, he has slow feet, so I'm not sure how he does this.

Canelo will go straight through Fielding.

No disrespect to Rocky, but there's levels.

[Primo Carnera]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. [B][B]He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

we shall see. It'll be interesting to see how he copes with Fielding , as Fielding has all the height and reach advantages that Smith and Groves would have, but is classes below them. Fielding is a British level fighter who got lucky to win a version of a title. Smith blasted Fielding out inside 2 minutes, and I'm not saying Canelo has to do that , but he has to show he can get around Fielding's reach advantage comfortably and be able to make some dents in him.
like you said, he has slow feet, so I'm not sure how he does this.

Canelo will go straight through Fielding.

No disrespect to Rocky, but there's levels.

Definitely not on the same level ,talent wise, but I reckon it’ll either be an early blow out or Fielding puts in one of those gallant loser performances and Canelo takes an age to get rid of him and stinks the place out.

[Alpha]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. [B][B]He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

we shall see. It'll be interesting to see how he copes with Fielding , as Fielding has all the height and reach advantages that Smith and Groves would have, but is classes below them. Fielding is a British level fighter who got lucky to win a version of a title. Smith blasted Fielding out inside 2 minutes, and I'm not saying Canelo has to do that , but he has to show he can get around Fielding's reach advantage comfortably and be able to make some dents in him.
like you said, he has slow feet, so I'm not sure how he does this.

Canelo will go straight through Fielding.

No disrespect to Rocky, but there's levels.

Definitely not on the same level ,talent wise, but I reckon it’ll either be an early blow out or Fielding puts in one of those gallant loser performances and Canelo takes an age to get rid of him and stinks the place out.

Looking at what he hit GGG with, I can't see anyway Fielding stands up to that.

[Master]

I would fancy Callum Smith to beat Canelo after his dismantling of George Groves.

Callum Smith would easily beat Canelo. How can you beat someone who has more height, reach , power and is probably a better boxer? Infact I don’t see him attempting to unify with any of the champions for the reasons already given.
He’ll be a champion at 2 weights and will just choose which makes the most money . A fight at MW, a fight at SMW , or a catchweight between the 2.
My guess would be the winner of DeGale/Eubank probably at 164lb. Again it guarantees victory. If it’s Eubank , he’ll make 164 no problem, but he’s not that level. If it’s DeGale, he’ll make him boil to 164 just to make sure he can’t win.

You may be right,I’d give Canelo a good chance though. He is definitely not outmatched as far as boxing skills. Canelo gets right fucked off by the average fan in this department. He’s actually a very good boxer, always has been. He has quite slow feet, which makes what he is good at look less impressive, at least the way I see it. He would have fucked groves up just as easily as smith did, imo.

Groves would have had an easier time against Canelo, as you said far too slow footwork to cause him problems.

[p4pking]

Froch had slow feet too, and I really think he ruined Groves, guy was never nearly as good after their first fight.