Terence Crawford- the best P4P in the sport today!

[Ron Swanson]

I wouldn't say Linares got beat by all his "best" opponents, Loma beat him when he was a three weight "world" champion, No. 1 ranked lightweight (The Ring champion), unbeaten for half-a-dozen years and had flirted in-and-out of P4P lists for a decade.

Walter's was regarded the no.1 featherweight (The Ring), unbeaten, had sparkos over former elites and was robbed - with a draw - against a man who was "robbed" against Gamboa.

Postol and Gamboa are good fighters but what makes them better on paper than Rigo, Russell Jr, Martinez, Marriaga or Sosa? Loma has a couple of HOFamers on his record inside a dozen fights.

Nobody in their right mind would pick Linares over Garcia so take the thought he was number 1 at LW and discard it because it’s simply not true.

Exactly, Garcia was still the WBC lightweight champ, so had to be considered among the 135 pound ratings. Just like Canelo will still be considered among the 160 rankings, unless he states he is permanently moving up or doesn't fight at 160 for over a year.

It's also the reason Wlad was never lineal champ, because Vitali was still WBC champ and no would have rated Povetkin or Chagaev above Vitali.

Also I think the initial statement was that Postol and co were on par with guys on Loma's record, trying to make out that Marriaga, Sosa and Martinez are better wins than Benavidez, Horn, Indongo, Diaz, Molina, Postol, Dulorme, Beltran, Gamboa and Burns is a deception and not seeing them on par at least presents a clear bias.

Rigo may get into the HOF but it won't be for anything he did at 130. I would be surprised if Linares gets into the hall.

Loma has a guy available to prove his spot, same age, same weight, Garcia.

Crawford has a chance to prove his spot with the younger Spence.

Inoue will continue to be “hey, do you all see what I’m doing? It’s insane”

Don't forget Usyk, or the 140 guys, or even the 115 guys. 108 fighters are also fighting each other regularly.

Oh I’ve been on Usyk since the amateurs. I love what he’s done but in P4P terms I tend to favor guys that have success in multiple weight classes. It’s not fair, but it’s how I see it. I mean, think of what Crawford would do if he was still at 135, he would murder Garcia and Loma. But that’s because he’s both really good and bigger. So to me moving up is how you show you are special, showing you don’t have to be bigger. Same reason I have Crawford over Spence P4P even though I would(with much hesitation) pick Spence H2H.

A little more time and a few more quality opponents and I have to look past the single weight class though.

[Alpha]

I wouldn't say Linares got beat by all his "best" opponents, Loma beat him when he was a three weight "world" champion, No. 1 ranked lightweight (The Ring champion), unbeaten for half-a-dozen years and had flirted in-and-out of P4P lists for a decade.

Walter's was regarded the no.1 featherweight (The Ring), unbeaten, had sparkos over former elites and was robbed - with a draw - against a man who was "robbed" against Gamboa.

Postol and Gamboa are good fighters but what makes them better on paper than Rigo, Russell Jr, Martinez, Marriaga or Sosa? Loma has a couple of HOFamers on his record inside a dozen fights.

Nobody in their right mind would pick Linares over Garcia so take the thought he was number 1 at LW and discard it because it’s simply not true.

Exactly, Garcia was still the WBC lightweight champ, so had to be considered among the 135 pound ratings. Just like Canelo will still be considered among the 160 rankings, unless he states he is permanently moving up or doesn't fight at 160 for over a year.

It's also the reason Wlad was never lineal champ, because Vitali was still WBC champ and no would have rated Povetkin or Chagaev above Vitali.

Also I think the initial statement was that Postol and co were on par with guys on Loma's record, trying to make out that Marriaga, Sosa and Martinez are better wins than Benavidez, Horn, Indongo, Diaz, Molina, Postol, Dulorme, Beltran, Gamboa and Burns is a deception and not seeing them on par at least presents a clear bias.

Rigo may get into the HOF but it won't be for anything he did at 130. I would be surprised if Linares gets into the hall.

Loma has a guy available to prove his spot, same age, same weight, Garcia.

Crawford has a chance to prove his spot with the younger Spence.

Inoue will continue to be “hey, do you all see what I’m doing? It’s insane”

Don't forget Usyk, or the 140 guys, or even the 115 guys. 108 fighters are also fighting each other regularly.

Oh I’ve been on Usyk since the amateurs. I love what he’s done but in P4P terms I tend to favor guys that have success in multiple weight classes. It’s not fair, but it’s how I see it. I mean, think of what Crawford would do if he was still at 135, he would murder Garcia and Loma. But that’s because he’s both really good and bigger. So to me moving up is how you show you are special, showing you don’t have to be bigger. Same reason I have Crawford over Spence P4P even though I would(with much hesitation) pick Spence H2H.

A little more time and a few more quality opponents and I have to look past the single weight class though.

Not disagreeing with how you view P4P but that could go both ways. Example: what Crawford would do if he was still at 135? Could he make 135 and it not affect his ability? If Crawford had to boil down to 135 today, I'd say Garcia and Loma probably stop him.

Multiple weights don't mean as much to me, unless a guy is taking on the best as he steps up. Take Lipinets at 140 for Mikey or Martinez, Walters or Sosa at 130 for Loma. Usyk took out both Briedis and Gassiev. On opposition alone Usyk is in the debate.