NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[Alpha]

It’s not spelling, you’re using the wrong word and it makes you sound like a kid. Saying there were no confessions would be using the common sense you like to bang on about, it would be very very hard to believe nobody either involved or with credentials in anything related to space travel or astrophysics ever came out to support your claims. The vast majority of early unmanned attempts to land on the moon over nearly two decades failed. Were they all a hoax too? There have been numerous 3rd party investigations by neutral countries with their own space programs in later years which have photographed the site of and confirmed the moon landing, fact. If you listen to Nixon’s conversation unedited, there was well over a 2 second pause in most of the exchanges, as it was made via a radio call that had to be relayed from numerous satellites and then from Houston. Sometimes the “story” we are told is just what happened, otherwise people a hell of a lot smarter than we are could have come up with something of substance to refute it.

We're in a boxing forum bud, take a break. Sometimes auto correct changes sh-t, and I don't really care to go back and proof read.

The evidence is there. How easy is it to blackmail people? Threaten you or your loved ones lives? Destroy you're credibility? NASA was getting millions a day. People are easy to control. This is shown everyday in TV and films, it's not beyond the realm of impossibility.

Again you're taking the word of all these agencies and their images and films. They all have an agenda.

The evidence is there for everyone to see if they look into it. No ones hiding it.

[Primo Carnera]

I haven’t had a lot to say recently on this , and that’s only because @Alpha is saying it so much better than I could . #team@Alpha

[Alpha]

Thanks Primo, I feel alone out here. Just a bit on the claim they transmitted the Nixon call by radio. A radio wave can most certainly reach much further than the moon if it is propagated correctly and has enough strength . The delay is the only problem , as it would take about 4.34 seconds, sunlight takes 9 min. 20 sec. to reach us btw , and light or radio waves travel the same speed in a vacuum. Nothing wrong with a well - meaning publicity stunt , I guess.

I take it p4pking watched the Nixon call I'm taking about. Forget the fake delays you hear. Towards the end when Nixon says something about seeing them on the Hornet or something. Check the delay, probably less than 2 seconds. Hmmmm

[walrus]

Alpha I was asking about a Snowden type man in the Apollo program as I never checked to see if there was one. I don’t think there was but if there was I’m sure you would know

[Alpha]

Alpha I was asking about a Snowden type man in the Apollo program as I never checked to see if there was one. I don’t think there was but if there was I’m sure you would know

Like I said NASA and the moon landings aren't my thing, although I believe they are fake, so I couldn't tell you truthfully. I question Snowden's authenticity as well.

[p4pking]

It’s not spelling, you’re using the wrong word and it makes you sound like a kid. Saying there were no confessions would be using the common sense you like to bang on about, it would be very very hard to believe nobody either involved or with credentials in anything related to space travel or astrophysics ever came out to support your claims. The vast majority of early unmanned attempts to land on the moon over nearly two decades failed. Were they all a hoax too? There have been numerous 3rd party investigations by neutral countries with their own space programs in later years which have photographed the site of and confirmed the moon landing, fact. If you listen to Nixon’s conversation unedited, there was well over a 2 second pause in most of the exchanges, as it was made via a radio call that had to be relayed from numerous satellites and then from Houston. Sometimes the “story” we are told is just what happened, otherwise people a hell of a lot smarter than we are could have come up with something of substance to refute it.

We're in a boxing forum bud, take a break. Sometimes auto correct changes sh-t, and I don't really care to go back and proof read.

The evidence is there. How easy is it to blackmail people? Threaten you or your loved ones lives? Destroy you're credibility? NASA was getting millions a day. People are easy to control. This is shown everyday in TV and films, it's not beyond the realm of impossibility.

Again you're taking the word of all these agencies and their images and films. They all have an agenda.

The evidence is there for everyone to see if they look into it. No ones hiding it.

Auto correct never changes you’re to your, and you kept doing it without exception. The evidence is there, you’re free to look into it why would neutral countries decades later again conduct elaborate hoaxes to support a conspiracy that would be so outdated? You think there are agencies with that kind of worldwide pull and threat? I just think it would’ve been easier to land on the moon than it would be to fake it, conduct such elaborate cover up stories and maintain them for decades around the world, keeping so many people quiet, etc. The irony is, in calling “them” fraudulent, you actually give all these outfits far too much credit.

[Alpha]

It’s not spelling, you’re using the wrong word and it makes you sound like a kid. Saying there were no confessions would be using the common sense you like to bang on about, it would be very very hard to believe nobody either involved or with credentials in anything related to space travel or astrophysics ever came out to support your claims. The vast majority of early unmanned attempts to land on the moon over nearly two decades failed. Were they all a hoax too? There have been numerous 3rd party investigations by neutral countries with their own space programs in later years which have photographed the site of and confirmed the moon landing, fact. If you listen to Nixon’s conversation unedited, there was well over a 2 second pause in most of the exchanges, as it was made via a radio call that had to be relayed from numerous satellites and then from Houston. Sometimes the “story” we are told is just what happened, otherwise people a hell of a lot smarter than we are could have come up with something of substance to refute it.

We're in a boxing forum bud, take a break. Sometimes auto correct changes sh-t, and I don't really care to go back and proof read.

The evidence is there. How easy is it to blackmail people? Threaten you or your loved ones lives? Destroy you're credibility? NASA was getting millions a day. People are easy to control. This is shown everyday in TV and films, it's not beyond the realm of impossibility.

Again you're taking the word of all these agencies and their images and films. They all have an agenda.

The evidence is there for everyone to see if they look into it. No ones hiding it.

Auto correct never changes you’re to your, and you kept doing it without exception. The evidence is there, you’re free to look into it why would neutral countries decades later again conduct elaborate hoaxes to support a conspiracy that would be so outdated? You think there are agencies with that kind of worldwide pull and threat? I just think it would’ve been easier to land on the moon than it would be to fake it, conduct such elaborate cover up stories and maintain them for decades around the world, keeping so many people quiet, etc. The irony is, in calling “them” fraudulent, you actually give all these outfits far too much credit.

If I type Yo on my phone it gives me a selection of You Your and You're at the top of the key board. So the words are already filled out, I just click the one I want, my bad, probably wasn't paying attention, and don't go back to proof read my posts. Sue me, I don't really care. I know the difference in the word. It's not really relevant, you still understand what I'm saying right? Go back and have a look through my other post over the last couple of years, I'm sure I've used it correctly at some point.

Yes I do believe there are agencies working together. But just because you think it would have been easier is not proof against the evidence.

You don't have to take my word for it, debunk it yourself, then you'll find out how much you've been fooled.

[p4pking]

I was just bugging you, I don’t take much seriously enough. I do think people who buy into every conspiracy theory aren’t any more aware than people who dont think critically about anything, a lot of the time. To be honest, I read as much about the moon landing today than I maybe ever have, because I just felt like arguing with you and I’m bored. I haven’t “been fooled”, as its nothing I’ve ever felt strongly about and really makes no difference to me what the truth is, was all well before my time anyways. Plus I’m Canadian and therefore have no claim to anything besides being polite, and I can’t even pull that off.

[walrus]

I was just bugging you, I don’t take much seriously enough. I do think people who buy into every conspiracy theory aren’t any more aware than people who dont think critically about anything, a lot of the time. To be honest, I read as much about the moon landing today than I maybe ever have, because I just felt like arguing with you and I’m bored. I haven’t “been fooled”, as its nothing I’ve ever felt strongly about and really makes no difference to me what the truth is, was all well before my time anyways. Plus I’m Canadian and therefore have no claim to anything besides being polite, and I can’t even pull that off.

You sure can’t you are a complete dickwad

[TitoFan]

Hey c'mon guys.... it's a bonafide argument, being carried out more civilly than 99% of the arguments on the forum lately. That in as of itself is refreshing to see.

On the topic itself, I'll just put it this way. The moon landing conspiracy theory, for lack of a better description, hasn't really taken off until relatively recently (I believe), at least as compared to the timeframe of the moon landings themselves. In other words.... the hoax claim didn't come out right off the bat after the landings. Thus, for many years, the vast majority of people were content with believing what they were seeing, hearing, and reading. That majority would include me. I never found it necessary to go back and dig deep to find out whether the landings were a hoax or not. Surely the motives were there. The space race with the Russians..... the commitment from JFK that it would be done..... and just plain old national pride. But I'll say right off the bat..... I'm generally not a fan of conspiracy theories. It seems everything nowadays is a conspiracy. This all sort of blends in nauseatingly with the Fake News phenomenon made so popular nowadays by President Trump. It's mind-boggling to think that nothing's real anymore. Maybe we were too innocent back then. Maybe we needed to become more jaded and skeptical about everything. But boy, does it suck to live this way.

I'm not going to weigh in on the lunar landings, because honestly I haven't been moved to read about them till now..... and hadn't had any reason to question them before now. Obviously it's an important topic, but TBH I'm just not moved to dig deep to find the real answers. Enough of the fake news and bogus facts spewed regularly on this forum by agenda-driven people, for me to take on yet another "truth that isn't really true."

It's all a bit sad, really.

[Alpha]

I was just bugging you, I don’t take much seriously enough. I do think people who buy into every conspiracy theory aren’t any more aware than people who dont think critically about anything, a lot of the time. To be honest, I read as much about the moon landing today than I maybe ever have, because I just felt like arguing with you and I’m bored. I haven’t “been fooled”, as its nothing I’ve ever felt strongly about and really makes no difference to me what the truth is, was all well before my time anyways. Plus I’m Canadian and therefore have no claim to anything besides being polite, and I can’t even pull that off.

All good buddy, I've never professed to being smart.

I look at it like the matrix with the red and blue pills. You have the choice.

I'm not claiming to be more aware than anyone else, but look at how quick the evolutionists left the thread when challenged on the belief in a theory. Believing an unproven theory so strongly, with no observable evidence, is the same as believing the bible. Blind faith.

Thing is this thread started over talk about going to Mars. That's happening now. Not in the past.

[p4pking]

I was just bugging you, I don’t take much seriously enough. I do think people who buy into every conspiracy theory aren’t any more aware than people who dont think critically about anything, a lot of the time. To be honest, I read as much about the moon landing today than I maybe ever have, because I just felt like arguing with you and I’m bored. I haven’t “been fooled”, as its nothing I’ve ever felt strongly about and really makes no difference to me what the truth is, was all well before my time anyways. Plus I’m Canadian and therefore have no claim to anything besides being polite, and I can’t even pull that off.

All good buddy, I've never professed to being smart.

I look at it like the matrix with the red and blue pills. You have the choice.

I'm not claiming to be more aware than anyone else, but look at how quick the evolutionists left the thread when challenged on the belief in a theory. Believing an unproven theory so strongly, with no observable evidence, is the same as believing the bible. Blind faith.

Thing is this thread started over talk about going to Mars. That's happening now. Not in the past.

I’d say regarding evolution, if Anyone disappeared it’s because it’s not really possible to argue with someone who just wont accept any evidence that is or can be presented. I agree with Fensters take there. Obviously there is a lot man doesn’t know, and I doubt we have any biologists posting in the thread, so what do you expect. I’ll assume you don’t believe the mars rover landed either? No offence at all, but it’s just kind of a headache to have these arguments. If you like, call it a matter of predisposition, as neither of us knows enough about the subject to provide anything worth debating. You think it’s comical how fooled I’ve been, my guess is there are plenty of people who’ve worked at NASA that think the same about you.

[Alpha]

I was just bugging you, I don’t take much seriously enough. I do think people who buy into every conspiracy theory aren’t any more aware than people who dont think critically about anything, a lot of the time. To be honest, I read as much about the moon landing today than I maybe ever have, because I just felt like arguing with you and I’m bored. I haven’t “been fooled”, as its nothing I’ve ever felt strongly about and really makes no difference to me what the truth is, was all well before my time anyways. Plus I’m Canadian and therefore have no claim to anything besides being polite, and I can’t even pull that off.

All good buddy, I've never professed to being smart.

I look at it like the matrix with the red and blue pills. You have the choice.

I'm not claiming to be more aware than anyone else, but look at how quick the evolutionists left the thread when challenged on the belief in a theory. Believing an unproven theory so strongly, with no observable evidence, is the same as believing the bible. Blind faith.

Thing is this thread started over talk about going to Mars. That's happening now. Not in the past.

I’d say regarding evolution, if Anyone disappeared it’s because it’s not really possible to argue with someone who just wont accept any evidence that is or can be presented. I agree with Fensters take there. Obviously there is a lot man doesn’t know, and I doubt we have any biologists posting in the thread, so what do you expect. I’ll assume you don’t believe the mars rover landed either? No offence at all, but it’s just kind of a headache to have these arguments. If you like, call it a matter of predisposition, as neither of us knows enough about the subject to provide anything worth debating. You think it’s comical how fooled I’ve been, my guess is there are plenty of people who’ve worked at NASA that think the same about you.

So what evidence would you like to provide for evolution? I love that there's this idea that there's evidence for something that is still a theory. Can't really be called evidence tho can it. I'll gladly accept it. The scientific method says it MUST be observable and repeatable. Give me 1 piece of observable evidence.

I wasn't meaning you when I said it's comical. I was talking all of us. Programmed by the media, blindly following stories we have been told.

With space it seems the only time in history when we have gone backwards with technology.