Fury v Wilder - Staples Center, Los Angeles 1/12/18

[Gandalf]

I found it odd how Wilder thought Americans love the British accent and that Fury speaks well. I have a hard time seeing anyone enjoy Fury's accent or voice. He sounds like a 50 year old Northern plumber. What's that weird Anerican thing he tries to put on too? Very strange. Fury gets his phrases jumbled up and that also sounds odd.

Wilder had no reason to lose his cool. He should have just worn a fat suit, made a few oinking noises and pretended to roll out a few lines of coke in front of his mic. Fury is easy to mock really.

I loved the line about being unable to sit down as Fury was indeed the one jumping all about as though he was on something. Wilder sat there. He knows the work is in the ring.

[p4pking]

I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.

[X]

So people are saying that Fury has lost weight ..... and it is the equivalent of an entire prime Ricky Hatton?

That must be a weigh-in Hatton, not a 'between fights' Hatton, otherwise Tyson Fury would make the bantamweight limit right now

[Gandalf]

I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.

I think both are cringeworthy when they start prattling on about higher power, God and being anointed. It suggests Fury hasn't fully recovered from his mania and that Wilder was a seriously indoctrinated young child. However, in saying that, apart from the cult like leanings, they are both people you could have a pint with.

[TitoFan]

Let's set the record straight in case anyone had any doubts. Fury can talk Wilder under a table with both hands tied behind his back. Wilder is a horrible talker, and can be had by a trash-talking 5th-grader. This is why Wilder comes across as unhinged, and could very well be frustrated at how Fury gets the best of him at every face-to-face. Howeverrrrrr....... this should not be confused with saying Fury has gotten into Wilder's head. Wilder is NOT Wlad. Repeat..... NOT Wlad. Wlad let Fury get into his head and became timid. He seemed scared that Fury could take him out. He threw 4 punches a round. Wilder is definitely NOT scared of Fury. Frustrated because Fury has made him look like a fool..... absolutely. Having second thoughts about being able to beat Fury? Nah. The only chance Fury has at playing with Wilder's mind is getting Wilder so pissed off he gets even wilder (no pun intended) than usual. That, I can see.

[Gandalf]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

[TitoFan]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.

[Gandalf]

I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.

It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.

Fury is better at talking smack and I would agree with that. I also think when Wilder does it it seems kind of forced and not really his thing. He has to try and hype a fight and cannot do a Mike Tyson impression well. I don't think he comes across as unhinged at all though, whence me finding it all rather forced. Fury on the other hand likely is a bit unhinged and that's no criticism. I don't really regard it as a verbal competition and find these conferences more pantomime than anything else.

If you have done the work in the gym and are confident in your abilities then you know in yourself that is likely more than enough, especially if you are undefeated, stay in shape, and have recently proven you can fight when up against it. Fury seems the one more desperate to get under Wilder's skin whilst Wilder has simply let a lot of things slide. For instance, Fury is dressing sharper but it is just hot air really isn't it to make a song and a dance about it? Doesn't matter really and if Fury was so enamored with his clothes why the desperate need to take them all off? Couldn't that wait for the weigh in? Isn't that unhinged? Flouncing about topless at the very end of a press conference?

I hope he is going to shave some of that beard off too as you wouldn't want that rubbing in the eyes. He should have an X marked on it too to add to the pantomime. Fury is all pantomime. The most likely person to be knocked out is Fury. By his own uppercut. Wilder is a bit soft and just doesn't throw out lines that way, but if talking makes you the best then why was Malignaggi never P4P number 1? Words can only take you so far in boxing. In the real world of course it is a different story.