Lennox was right

[X]

The fix in the first Golovkin v Alvarez fight was right up there too!

[Memphis]

Lennox Lewis, fine fighter, lousy commentator/analyst. Did he have a weird beard pony tail? It looked like his head had just come out the tumble drier.

[nuggetdotcom]

My reason for starting this thread was not to solicit comment on the 'new' Wilder/Fury/Joshua trilogy, there are plenty of other threads for that, it was to highlight the shameful judging of the fight, 19 years after Lennox was robbed in New York. This situation in the US cannot be allowed to carry on, the way interest is increasing in Europe, and decreasing in the US, means that potentially Euro bookmakers could appoint their own 'official' judges to adjudicate US based fights that involve Europeans. Serious amounts of money have just been robbed from Euro punters, courtesy of corrupt US appointed judges. I'm sure our larger bookmakers will not continue to accept this and appoint their own' respected household name' unofficial arbiters when our fighters go to the US.

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..... but surely the bookies were quids in with the draw? Best result they could have had. They would have lost money if Fury got the win.

[nuggetdotcom]

..... but surely the bookies were quids in with the draw? Best result they could have had. They would have lost money if Fury got the win.

But it was actually highway robbery, perpetrated by US appointed judges, again. Punters are not mugs, and bookies understand that, its their living. If there is a US based rematch I look forward to an enterprising UK based bookie offering their own 'impartial' judges. Even the most cold blooded UK bookmaker now knows the score and will offer a fairer alternative, otherwise nobody will bet!

[Ron Swanson]

People are aware it was a Mexican judge, a British judge and a Canadian judge right?

I agree the fight was wrongly scored but nationality doesn’t seem to be the weak link.

[Gandalf]

If Wilder won 4 rounds with two 10-8's then it is relatively close. If someome scores a few more close rounds to Wilder (which there were) then a draw is feasible. It was not a robbery. It was one of those Pac/Marquez 1 kind of fights but the knock downs scored more because they were in different rounds rather than all in the same one. If Fury wanted a clear decision he should have done a Calzaghe/Hopkins and only be knocked down the once and then win most of the other rounds. Only 13 punches seperated Wilder and Fury. That is not decisive.

[Fenster]

..... but surely the bookies were quids in with the draw? Best result they could have had. They would have lost money if Fury got the win.

But it was actually highway robbery, perpetrated by US appointed judges, again. Punters are not mugs, and bookies understand that, its their living. If there is a US based rematch I look forward to an enterprising UK based bookie offering their own 'impartial' judges. Even the most cold blooded UK bookmaker now knows the score and will offer a fairer alternative, otherwise nobody will bet!

You can bet on draws and draw no bet and fights to go the distance - it's all factored in the price.

The draw was 33/1 during the week (with a major firm) and 20/1 in-play after 5 rounds (if you fancy your man on PTS always have a saver on the draw )

[Primo Carnera]

My reason for starting this thread was not to solicit comment on the 'new' Wilder/Fury/Joshua trilogy, there are plenty of other threads for that, it was to highlight the shameful judging of the fight, 19 years after Lennox was robbed in New York. This situation in the US cannot be allowed to carry on, the way interest is increasing in Europe, and decreasing in the US, means that potentially Euro bookmakers could appoint their own 'official' judges to adjudicate US based fights that involve Europeans. Serious amounts of money have just been robbed from Euro punters, courtesy of corrupt US appointed judges. I'm sure our larger bookmakers will not continue to accept this and appoint their own' respected household name' unofficial arbiters when our fighters go to the US.

No doubt that the one judge got it wrong , and the other (a Brit) gave a draw which he can get away with (not how I saw it btw.) and it happens in the States. But it happens in the UK as well. Some of the decisions and judges cards I've seen over here have been just as bad, sometimes worse.
So you can't make it out to be a US thing.
I think the judges need to be more accountable after the fight, after all they do get paid for doing this, so they should be sat down with and go through the fight and show how/why they've scored it as they have. if they can't justify it, they take the consequences, they don't get to do it again.

[nuggetdotcom]

Haven't got a copy of it. But for the brits out there its a picture of Tyson Fury with the caption 'First ever UK Gypsy to get robbed'

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My reason for starting this thread was not to solicit comment on the 'new' Wilder/Fury/Joshua trilogy, there are plenty of other threads for that, it was to highlight the shameful judging of the fight, 19 years after Lennox was robbed in New York. This situation in the US cannot be allowed to carry on, the way interest is increasing in Europe, and decreasing in the US, means that potentially Euro bookmakers could appoint their own 'official' judges to adjudicate US based fights that involve Europeans. Serious amounts of money have just been robbed from Euro punters, courtesy of corrupt US appointed judges. I'm sure our larger bookmakers will not continue to accept this and appoint their own' respected household name' unofficial arbiters when our fighters go to the US.

No doubt that the one judge got it wrong , and the other (a Brit) gave a draw which he can get away with (not how I saw it btw.) and it happens in the States. But it happens in the UK as well. Some of the decisions and judges cards I've seen over here have been just as bad, sometimes worse.
So you can't make it out to be a US thing.
I think the judges need to be more accountable after the fight, after all they do get paid for doing this, so they should be sat down with and go through the fight and show how/why they've scored it as they have. if they can't justify it, they take the consequences, they don't get to do it again.

Good call about the judges being held accountable.

Something definitely needs to be done in that respect.