Should Wilder prove that he broke his arm?

[Ron Swanson]

If he wants to say he broke his arm 12 weeks before camp started, whatever. The more important point to me is if he did break his arm, why negotiate for that fight AND the possible AJ fight.
To me , that is conning the public and he should be brought before the authorities to justify that and if they feel he wasn’t 100% , withhold a portion of his purse. He’s such a thick cunt he doesn’t see this.
He is such a desperate wanker. He’s also posted on Social media “PROOF” that it was a long count in the 12th. So there’s a stopwatch showing from the moment Fury hit the canvas, and stops at 10 seconds dead, when Fury is nearly up.
However , the prick forgets that the count doesn’t start till he’s in an neutral corner! So when he’s standing over Fury and doing his funny walk , the ref doesn’t start the count. The guy has shown himself to be a complete fucking dullard.

I agree he is a dullard but that is not how the count works. The referee instructs the fighter to go to the corner and picks the time up from the time keeper. If it takes him 4 seconds to get Deontay to the corner he starts his at 5 etcetera. But....if he instructs Deontay to his corner, Deontay goes and comes back out of the corner interrupting his count then the count stops.

[El Kabong]

From the get go I knew the trash talk would fall flat and by the end of things one if not both fighters would have to answer for the result so when faced with an excuse I will sing you the song of my people.....

[ruthless rocco]

[Ron Swanson]

This guy does more MMA stuff than boxing but if you’re bored and have 25 minutes here’s a breakdown of the fight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9_IPruFOsAU&t=1134s

[Fenster]

I understand casual-type fans getting all excited by "long counts" and getting out stopwatches and whatnot but any hardcore/nerd fan knows these are fine line decisions which happen every single week.

A different ref would've waved the fight off instantly when Fury hit the floor, another stopped him from getting up, another stopped it when he got to his feet, another maybe wave the fight after he reached 9.

Not one of those decisions would have been wrong/unjust, it's just Reiss made a "great" call (and had Fury been knocked unconcious Reiss would currently have calls for his head).

[Gandalf]

The count was great as was not stopping it immediately. My issue was with Fury being given 13 seconds to hug the ref and jog around. It should be 'Are you okay?' 'Yes'. 'Fight'. Should be a couple of seconds rather than the time of another count and a half.

[Master]

The count was great as was not stopping it immediately. My issue was with Fury being given 13 seconds to hug the ref and jog around. It should be 'Are you okay?' 'Yes'. 'Fight'. Should be a couple of seconds rather than the time of another count and a half.

You can’t legislate for every second after a boxer gets back up from being knocked down. There are numerous things that a boxer can do to delay the contest from re-starting which the ref should be aware of to stop.

The main point was Fury got up and fought back hard. The couple of seconds really made no difference.

[ryanman]

I understand casual-type fans getting all excited by "long counts" and getting out stopwatches and whatnot but any hardcore/nerd fan knows these are fine line decisions which happen every single week.

A different ref would've waved the fight off instantly when Fury hit the floor, another stopped him from getting up, another stopped it when he got to his feet, another maybe wave the fight after he reached 9.

Not one of those decisions would have been wrong/unjust, it's just Reiss made a "great" call (and had Fury been knocked unconcious Reiss would currently have calls for his head).

Too right. It's neither here nor there. Week in week out there are variations. It's not an exact science so no point applying the stopwatch to try to retrospectively make it one.

As it happens, that video that shows 'Fury beat the count' is actually proof that he didn't.

Even hardcore boxing fans often misunderstand. You don't have ten seconds to just about get clear of the floor (other than feet), you get ten seconds to be upright, and addressing the ref ready to fight. So if your legs are still in the process of extending when the count reaches 10, you haven't made it. Even if you are only just totally upright you still haven't made it.

That said, I think its a non-issue. Would say the same either way. What's half a second with what is an inexact process anyway and he was clearly ok to go on by the time he was upright.

[Ron Swanson]

The way the ref handled it could have been deemed dangerous. But as has been pointed out there are grey areas and what transpired after showed that the ref handled it appropriately. Wish we could say the same for the judges.

[Primo Carnera]

If he wants to say he broke his arm 12 weeks before camp started, whatever. The more important point to me is if he did break his arm, why negotiate for that fight AND the possible AJ fight.
To me , that is conning the public and he should be brought before the authorities to justify that and if they feel he wasn’t 100% , withhold a portion of his purse. He’s such a thick cunt he doesn’t see this.
He is such a desperate wanker. He’s also posted on Social media “PROOF” that it was a long count in the 12th. So there’s a stopwatch showing from the moment Fury hit the canvas, and stops at 10 seconds dead, when Fury is nearly up.
However , the prick forgets that the count doesn’t start till he’s in an neutral corner! So when he’s standing over Fury and doing his funny walk , the ref doesn’t start the count. The guy has shown himself to be a complete fucking dullard.

I agree he is a dullard but that is not how the count works. The referee instructs the fighter to go to the corner and picks the time up from the time keeper. If it takes him 4 seconds to get Deontay to the corner he starts his at 5 etcetera. But....if he instructs Deontay to his corner, Deontay goes and comes back out of the corner interrupting his count then the count stops.

Thanks for putting me right on the count thing. Now, bearing in mind he broke his arm , do you still believe that his team’s offers to AJ at the time were genuine?