What's it gonna take for this guy to get the message?

[El Kabong]

At the end of the day what is the problem? Is it Kim Jong Un? Is it there being a North Korea? I mean shit I think most everyone would be happy if there was only 1 Korea, 1 Korea would be Best Korea IMO....but from 1950 until Trump became President it's been tough, we've seen the most progress in the relationships between North Korea, South Korea, and the United States in that time. In that time the Korean War, the one started in 1950, was FINALLY ended, American KIA were returned home, drills have slowed if not stopped, missile tests and missile launches have stopped.


So why the rush to "OMG shit's going to hit the fan very soon?"



I think things have been going alright. We'll see where things go, but I for one don't think Lil Kim is going to say "Well I've finally be treated like a big boy....let's blow this joint" it makes no sense to me from America's standpoint because it's not like we CAN'T hit them with a KO punch if they did anything dumb and it makes no sense from their perspective either, they have JUST been invited to the adults' table, why would they fuck that up on purpose?


I think it's ok to be concerned about Kim Jong Un, it's ok to keep an eye on them, but I think they're feeling better about how things are going than in the past so I doubt they'll fuck it up, but we'll see.

[goti71]

The US and everyone else have everything to lose while NK doesn't.

BUT the last thing a regime like NK would do, with its elite living like kings (or like gods while their people are gaunt and low average IQ), would be to start getting serious with nukes. Because that's when all those fancy countries —with their comfortable stabilities— would have absolutely nothing to lose. Not a good move by North Korea.

The best option would be to just let it die a natural death (like Franco in spain). Because imagine if we did take out this Kim Jong Un (sniper on a roof? Poison? A "small" nuke?); who'se going to deal with a massive flood of hungry unskilled North Koreans the next day?

It's basically a regime holding several million people hostage and I don't think it really is a danger to anyone (not to downplay how horrible it is for their people). Swat teams can handle hostage situations easily, but nobody is interested in a shootout.

[Gandalf]

Tito, I will once again say that it is a very poorly thought out question. North Korea has no track record in recent decades of invading countries or making more than belligerent statements on state TV (akin to the CNN you hold dear actually). They are not a threat to the US. They are a threat to SK and likewise SK is a threat to them thus peaceful moves have and are being made.

A thread like this is a bit random and clearly induced by you being manipulated by your media. Calm down and think things through. Right at this very moment progress is being made. Nothing needs to be done about NK. If you want to go agead and take out Baba Booey then go ahead, but otherwise stop virtue signalling based on very little.

[Gandalf]

North Koreans are poor but they do not have low IQ's. That is something I have had people in the UK say and I have had to point out that when it comes to intelligence the average Asian is smarter than they are. The people are propagandised but they go to school and learn much as anywhere else. All East Asian countries have very high IQ's.

[TitoFan]

Tito, I will once again say that it is a very poorly thought out question. North Korea has no track record in recent decades of invading countries or making more than belligerent statements on state TV (akin to the CNN you hold dear actually). They are not a threat to the US. They are a threat to SK and likewise SK is a threat to them thus peaceful moves have and are being made.

A thread like this is a bit random and clearly induced by you being manipulated by your media. Calm down and think things through. Right at this very moment progress is being made. Nothing needs to be done about NK. If you want to go agead and take out Baba Booey then go ahead, but otherwise stop virtue signalling based on very little.

North Korea has no track record of invading countries Miles, because they can't. They know they'll be beaten down like a red-headed stepchild. I think you're the one who should think this through a bit. Having nukes is sort of the "equalizer" in the global stage. When you rule over a country that depends on repression and make-belief to put on a happy face to the outside world, you need something that will take people's minds off their own troubles and galvanize them against "The Enemy." You also need something you can use as a bargaining chip to try and get a seat at the table.

But of course you'll blab about media manipulation, virtue signalling, blah, blah, blah. You sound like a broken record, Miles. But since you mentioned media manipulation, I'll be kind enough to put this out there, so you can tell us how it's all made up of doctored pictures and made up shit.... just to manipulate us sheep.


https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/nor...-space-photos/


In all honesty Miles, I couldn't give less of a flying one about Kim Jong-Un. As long as he stays in his cage and doesn't threaten this side of the world, he can do what he wants in NK. He can put on his charades, and march his people out for Stepford Wives photographs so the outside world can see how much of a "paradise" NK is. After all, appearances are 90% of the game, right?

A word of advice for you would be to drop that Gibraltar-sized chip on your shoulder regarding the Evil American Empire. You sound as if all invasions and bombings in history have been perpetrated by the Evil Empire. It is such a tired, skewed, and outdated view of the world. Not that I'll ever convince you..... but just a friendly suggestion.

[Gandalf]

Now I would of course like to add that I am not seriously suggesting that Puerto Rico should be invaded. Irony tends to get lost in translation, but I am suggesting that America has its own problems and that NK which the media is daily talking about here is not causing any new problems. Unlike Tits I do not see the need to assassinate anyone, but then again I seldom urinate on corpses either. Each to their own I guess.

Puerto Rican debt levels are obviously a far more significant concern than nukes that have never been used on anyone and which are owned by many nations and similarly unused. All things considered NK is a bizarre thing to be waffling on about.

[walrus]

I think miles and Brock have an attack treaty on tits.

[TitoFan]

Miles Miles Miles..... you sad, metrosexual pussywhipped little person..... you get soooo personal about things. I wish you could be a happier soul, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much hope for you. Tell you what..... I'll pray for you.
That's what we do with lost souls such as yourself.

You again resort to island insults in the hopes of getting a rise out of me, and all you're succeeding in doing is putting your sad little petty, pitiful self out there for all to see. I feel "verguenza ajena"..... a sort of 3rd party embarrassment one gets when someone's making a fool of themselves.

Let's not even mention that NK has fuck all to do with PR, 'cause that's rather obvious and this is just an argument between me and, well....... your little pitiful self. Beanz is gone, but I'm here to put you in your place and slap you down like the adolescent, pipsqueak, princess, prancing little queen you are. But I do it for your own good.

Are you so hurt that I would talk about assassinating Jong-Un? Geez, little dude..... take a pill for that. You ARE capable of discussing something civilly without getting your panties in a knot, aren't you? If I thought you'd take it so personally, I would've thought twice about it. Relax princess..... I haven't put out a hit on Baby Huey...... ok?

Walrus humors you and talks about having a crush on you, but in real life he must feel sorry for you, like most of us here do. Remember, you've put a lot of your personal life out there, so we all happen to know all the little phases you've gone through..... from wanting to cut yourself with razor blades, to rhapsodizing about what color hair looks better on you, to having diaries where you write your shit (I don't know about your planet..... but in this planet only teenage girls keep diaries), and all sorts of other weird stuff. And still we like to have you around for the comic entertainment value. Although I must say..... you've fallen down on the job regarding your Brock Crusade Thread. I'm extremely disappointed in your for that. You need to pick that shit back up, little dude.

Listen babe.... I sense you're the one with anger management issues. They come out periodically on here. Wanting to punch babies..... getting all frothy at the mouth regarding Special Olympics.... not to mention the wars you carried on for years with Beanz. We know your life isn't all peaches and cream. You're a frustrated English teacher living in a country not your own, because you can't cut it where you're from. I get it. It must be fucking frustrating. Then you've had these sexual identity issues which you've plastered all over the forum, wanting us to give you a hand in identifying which gender you actually belong to. That's all well and good. I feel like we've formed part of that growing up process you're obviously still going through. And frankly I'm proud to have put my little grain of sand in that process. I'll take the credit, but not the blame.

The part of not being able to cut it back in England must be tough, I know. So you're reduced to criticizing the country from afar without actually having to personally contribute anything to it. Pretty pathetic, and something Beanz used to ream your ass over. It takes a certain type of person to persevere and adapt.... and not all of us are cut out of that cloth. The sexual identity part is a tougher nut to crack, though. You're married..... not that THAT proves anything. Lots of married men are just covering for their homosexual tendencies. I've read that makes them angry and petty.... having to hide their true selves. Does your wife know you're dying to come out of the closet? It's gonna happen one day, you know. You're not a heavy drinker (again from your personal diaries).... so all it takes is one too many drinks and that shit will come flying out of you like a gay tidal wave. Oh well..... your marriage will be ruined..... but the pressure will be off. You'll be free like a little hummingbird, and maybe turn into a kinder, gentler soul.

But back to Korea, babe. So you're suggesting that back when Kim Jong-Un was threatening about nuking Guam and Alaska..... are you suggesting that all of that should've been shrugged off and ignored? Isn't that kind of a double standard? Don't you rake American leaders over the coals for much less than that? Why is your hate for the U.S. and your love for NK so strong and full of childish hatred? Why are you so incapable of discussing these topics without resorting to grammar school sandlot fights? I don't get you, Miles.

Know what I think? I think in the 10+ years some of us have been here, I've observed subtle changes in everyone here except you. You've remained in some sort of time warp where your level of maturity has remained the same or even dropped in the number of years you've been here. Your style of fighting is the same..... your comical chest-beating is the same..... your know-it-all banter based on questionable sources remains the same. Everything about you remains the same. You're the same Saddo Court Jester we've enjoyed having here since you first joined. Cheers for that. You certainly are entertaining.

Nothing personal babe. Just saying it like it is.

[TitoFan]

Again, that was satire. I am not looking for the expiration of Walrus whence the quotation marks. Having a laugh really about the notion that some think they are balanced and a voice of reason whilst others are 'nutters'. I feel the same about politics. The notion that some have to be assassinated whilst those doing the assassinations are only doing it for the good of the world. What on earth are you talking about? Did you forget what happened in Iraq? In Vietnam? In the case of Vietnam many veterans concede that they were on the 'wrong side' or else shouldn't have been there at all. North Korea is a threat to its own citizens, but you can say the same about many countries (Puerto Rico included). Beyond that NK largely keeps itself to itself. That is the only conclusion one can make. The idea that countries do not have a right to defend themselves is ludicrous. Is Israel dropping nukes on Palestine? Nope. Now do they use other forms of violence? Absolutely. The nuke is a last resort and that is why they seldom get used. America would not give up its nukes precisely because it would be at a disadvantage. That was my entire point. I wouldn't expect them too. I find all these sanctions and wars to be ridiculous and if countries would look to bully less and negotiate more then the world would be a better place.

Miles Miles Miles....... why oh why do you insist on putting Vietnam in the same sentence as NK?? Again.... apples and oranges. Nobody...... repeat..... NOBODY is comparing NK to Vietnam. I'm among those who agree that the U.S. had no business in Vietnam. It is sad that so many lives were lost..... on BOTH sides.... because of some very unfortunate, unwise decisions regarding Vietnam. A more useless war is very hard to find. BUT..... and this is where the "but" comes in..... Vietnam was never a threat to anyone outside Vietnam. Nobody in Vietnam spoke about nuking Guam or Alaska. Vietnam didn't lob missiles over Japan.

How come you never address Jong-Un's penchant for lobbing missiles over Japan? Is that not a fair and reasonable question? Is that subject out of bounds? Have you ever asked any Japanese how they feel about that?

"The idea that countries do not have a right to defend themselves is ludicrous." Who's saying NK doesn't have a right to defend itself? But tell me...... do they need to continue and continue upping their nuke capacity in order to defend themselves? Who is this imaginary enemy who is going to march on their borders and invade them? The U.S.? Please don't say that, 'cause I'll urinate on myself (there's that fav word of yours) in laughter. What on god's green Earth would the U.S. want to invade NK for? For their vast oil reserves? For altruistic reasons? For the good of mankind? Hell no. The U.S. cares not one single solitary shit about NK. All it wants....... ALL it wants, Miles, is for NK to stop rattling cages and making ridiculous threats, whether they can carry them out or not.

You gotta stop taking these criticisms of NK and Jong-Un so personally. It skews everything else you have to say.