Who should meet next in the Heavies?

[nuggetdotcom]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

[Spicoli]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

Think it best Wilder clears up unfinished business with Fury and clear victory will give him more ground and prize with Joshua. I don't think AJ doubts he can beat Wilder buy why expect him or any other boxer to clamor for a guy who just got early Christmas gifts and came in 2nd place.

[TitoFan]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

Think it best Wilder clears up unfinished business with Fury and clear victory will give him more ground and prize with Joshua. I don't think AJ doubts he can beat Wilder buy why expect him or any other boxer to clamor for a guy who just got early Christmas gifts and came in 2nd place.

Especially when they know they could outbox Wilder throughout the whole fight and get starched in the 12th round by The Equalizer at the end of his right arm.

[Spicoli]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

Think it best Wilder clears up unfinished business with Fury and clear victory will give him more ground and prize with Joshua. I don't think AJ doubts he can beat Wilder buy why expect him or any other boxer to clamor for a guy who just got early Christmas gifts and came in 2nd place.

Especially when they know they could outbox Wilder throughout the whole fight and get starched in the 12th round by The Equalizer at the end of his right arm.

No different than most fighters through the ranks really, just in a louder more heavily advertised package really. Wilder packs bricks but he'd be better suited to work on his delivery system and gears than to think all he needs is to clump a guy once or twice and call it a day. Fair to say that's why he finds himself in the exact situation and do over he's in now.

[TitoFan]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

Think it best Wilder clears up unfinished business with Fury and clear victory will give him more ground and prize with Joshua. I don't think AJ doubts he can beat Wilder buy why expect him or any other boxer to clamor for a guy who just got early Christmas gifts and came in 2nd place.

Especially when they know they could outbox Wilder throughout the whole fight and get starched in the 12th round by The Equalizer at the end of his right arm.

No different than most fighters through the ranks really, just in a louder more heavily advertised package really. Wilder packs bricks but he'd be better suited to work on his delivery system and gears than to think all he needs is to clump a guy once or twice and call it a day. Fair to say that's why he finds himself in the exact situation and do over he's in now.

No I got you there. I was just addressing your "why expect him (AJ) or any other boxer to clamor for a guy (Wilder) who just....."

Point is, Wilder is probably seen, if he wasn't already, as an "not much to gain, with everything to lose" type of opponent. You can thoroughly outbox the guy for 12 rounds (a la Sergio vs. Junior) and then get caught in the 12th round. If you win a decision, people will say Wilder can't box. If he catches you with one shot, it's lights out. It's sort of a lose-lose proposition.

[Spicoli]

I guess I don't get the feel of AJ being surpassed in some way. Wilder and Fury turned into a good scrap but also a glaring case of styles making fights and either was capable of convincingly and completely separating himself from the other..bs scoring aside. Fury wasn't supposed to come out of this with a sense of being reinvented and all that glory . They pulled respectable numbers but honestly imo, they're still not fighting to determine #1, they're fighting to determine who will face #1. Have to love the way Fury is still shining in aftermath and already putting their names out though..he's become various walking memes and all of it will bolster sales. Heavyweights are looking good though, the division has some breath running through the lungs and many interesting options for fans.

Has Joshua/Hearn got the bottle to take on Wild Card Wilder? If he was any kind of boxer he would take the fight in a heartbeat, Wilder is overhyped, overpaid, and can't box.

Think it best Wilder clears up unfinished business with Fury and clear victory will give him more ground and prize with Joshua. I don't think AJ doubts he can beat Wilder buy why expect him or any other boxer to clamor for a guy who just got early Christmas gifts and came in 2nd place.

Especially when they know they could outbox Wilder throughout the whole fight and get starched in the 12th round by The Equalizer at the end of his right arm.

No different than most fighters through the ranks really, just in a louder more heavily advertised package really. Wilder packs bricks but he'd be better suited to work on his delivery system and gears than to think all he needs is to clump a guy once or twice and call it a day. Fair to say that's why he finds himself in the exact situation and do over he's in now.

No I got you there. I was just addressing your "why expect him (AJ) or any other boxer to clamor for a guy (Wilder) who just....."

Point is, Wilder is probably seen, if he wasn't already, as an "not much to gain, with everything to lose" type of opponent. You can thoroughly outbox the guy for 12 rounds (a la Sergio vs. Junior) and then get caught in the 12th round. If you win a decision, people will say Wilder can't box. If he catches you with one shot, it's lights out. It's sort of a lose-lose proposition.

Ah the ol risk vs reward good point. Can see that had the judges preformed and the trinket fallen away rightfully to Fury. In the aftermath he was schooled. But he did manage good crowd numbers also thanks in large part to Fury so can't knock him there. He was and is still the best we can muster in 'Murica. But I see no ground where Joshua should be expected to 'need' Wilder save for the trinket around his waist until he at least settles up Fury. I swear belts are so overrated .

[palmerq]

wilder is not the best the usa can muster, that would be big baby miller... the 300+lb guy :S.......