What's it gonna take for this guy to get the message?

[Gandalf]

Let me address your salacious points one by one.

1. It is true Puerto Rico is bankrupt. There is no getting around that.
2. No Puerto Rico is not NK, but it is your place, so why the obsession with a place nowhere near you? Why no threads on PR and it's problems? Why the emotion when Brock brough that up? It was slightly histrionic.
3. I think assassinating a leader is pretty bad form. Obviously.
4. My hair is black, it is always black. I do not change my hairstyle. It has been cut by the same woman for 12 years. It costs me 5 pounds. Short back and sides, slightly parted on top, still short.
5. Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.
6. Nothing against the disabled, but simply an observation, that many agree with, that disabled boxing for instance would not catch on like regular boxing. People do not watch the Paralympics in the same numbers as the regular Olympics. Just a fact.
7. I have never punched a baby. It's akin to Brock wanting to fight GGG. Obviously a very serious statement of intent. Not.
8. Frustrated? Yes, 5 months a year vacation, 4 day working week, and afternoons free is killing me. I am sure teachers earning less with 60 hours a week of teaching and paperwork are having incredible fun.
9. My sexuality is fine and even if in doubt are you a homophobe of some kind? Sounds like hate speech to me. Who cares? Want a cuddle?
10. Yes, I believe NK is no threat and that you are pathetic to even take it seriously. The rockets stopped long ago, so you are being histrionic.
11. Make up your mind. One minute I have changed a lot and the next not at all. You base it all on how I respond to each post. Be consistent.

You can question my values and who I am as much as you like, but I am a pretty solid person in that I will never harm children or be a financial burden on the government. So, yeah, you can go on about me in a CNN interpretation of Trump kind of way, but I do not have baby Momma's, do not claim benefits, paid for a house in cash with no mortgage, and all kinds of pretty solid things. So, you can go on about rather nothing quirky things and go on and on about Beanz and Brock all you like, but it just shows you as being a very immature person yourself. You live on an island where the average IQ is 84 points for goodness sake where there is so much welfare the government cannot balance the books. I do very well in a place where the IQ is 105 and have no need for welfare and where family is still strong. It puts it all into context really. I am hardly what you would call a failure and considering my origins have done pretty well all things considered. I am not exactly working as a dishwasher in my hometown and even if I was, at least it would be an honest living. And no I do not think sending those pm's to Brock or calling for assassination makes you look particularly mature or grown up. You are apparently much older than me, but it does not show.

I just saw your last post while scrolling down too. In terms of the missiles I will repeat: they have stopped lobbing missiles! I am sure Japan is happy about that. Last week I drove into Seoul which is a city with thousands of rockets aimed at it. You know what? I did not paint my nails or have a cry. It has been like this for decades and life goes on. Don't get yourself into a tither about something that will never affect you nor is even a problem at the moment. All I see are positive things right now.

Anyway, sorry if I have hurt your feelings. I was been satirical in an extreme kind of way. Though actually I am not so satirical about Puerto Rico which I think does have serious economic problems and problems with kids growing up without fathers. Obviously that is detrimental and I do not like to see grown people making bad choices when it affects kids. I have no problem with adults doing bad things that affect themselves, but kids have no say and that does actually upset me a lot. That's all it is ever about. Also with the debt and that is not just PR, it is many countries, US included, that are basically rolling it over to future generations. That is very bad form.

You leave Baba alone. I think all things considered the amount of progress made in a year has been phenomenal. And credit where credit is due, Trump is clearly not such a bad man. Would Hilary have made this much progress? Obviously not.

[Gandalf]

And yes, I would ideally love more freedom and opportunity for the people of NK. That is more important than any of this nuclear stuff IMO. Every nation has the right to self defense, but you do not have the right to repress your people. In saying that I have a friend who is convinced it really is not as bad as we are told and recent articles are all pointing the right way. Something is definitely happening there. Hopefully step by step, we can see it continue.

[TitoFan]

I'll address your points with some points of my own.

1. Yes, Puerto Rico is currently bankrupt. I'm still eating 3 meals a day, and sitting here reading your boring bullshit on the forum. Next point.

2. Why no threads on PR and it's problems? I'll gladly discuss PR's problems with a fellow adult, having a mature conversation as adults tend to have. Brock is a 54-year old man perfectly capable of speaking for himself. My problems with him are between Brock and me. Bad form is butting in where you don't belong and using your friendship to skew facts and twist everything to your liking. But I don't expect you to grasp that one.

3. Assassination in and of itself may be bad form.... but there are more than a handful of world leaders out there that their respective countries could well do without. Kim is one of them. Nicolas Maduro is another. Rodrigo Duterte may well be another depending on your particular point of view. People talk about overthrowing leaders all the time. Get over it.

4. You must have suffered a major lapse in memory. I vividly recall you rhapsodizing about your hair color and style. You must've blocked that phase out of your mind. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

5. What a load of bullshit. This alone speaks volumes about the type of person I'm attempting to reason with.

6. More bullshit. I can't be bothered to search..... but you regularly spewed tons of threads and posts disparaging the whole Paralympics thing and seemed to have some real anger issues about it.

7. Normal people.... or at least those from my planet..... don't joke around about punching babies. I could joke around about assassinating a world leader and it would come off better than you joking about punching babies. But it goes with the rest of your personality. Just like you to want to punch someone who can't punch back.

8. Well whoopie for you, Miles. At least you found a place where you can fit in, since you obviously failed to do so back home.

9. Not a homophobe, Miles. Some of my best friends are gay. I'm a firm believer you can do with your anus as you like. More power to you.

10. "The rockets stopped long ago." Cool story, bro. And Kim will never ever lob them over Japan ever again. Crosses his heart and hopes to die. By the way, I've got some beachfront property in Nebraska to sell you if you're interested.

11. Where do you get this shit from? Just wondering. Ok I'll humor you. You have NOT changed. You're still the same ol' Miles we've come to laugh at and love.


I'm thinking maybe I should at least feign anger with you. You seem so bent on this "getting a rise" out of me that I'm actually starting to feel a bit guilty that I'm not. Your tired lines about me "calming down", you "getting a rise" out of me, and all those other things began to sound hollow and fall on deaf ears eons ago. It passed Sad Territory and is well into Pathetic Country. What can I do to make that better? You want me to threaten to kill you and piss on you? Would that get a gay little smile out of you? Well ok..... but you'll have to beg.

[Gandalf]

I'll address your points with some points of my own.

1. Yes, Puerto Rico is currently bankrupt. I'm still eating 3 meals a day, and sitting here reading your boring bullshit on the forum. Next point.

2. Why no threads on PR and it's problems? I'll gladly discuss PR's problems with a fellow adult, having a mature conversation as adults tend to have. Brock is a 54-year old man perfectly capable of speaking for himself. My problems with him are between Brock and me. Bad form is butting in where you don't belong and using your friendship to skew facts and twist everything to your liking. But I don't expect you to grasp that one.

3. Assassination in and of itself may be bad form.... but there are more than a handful of world leaders out there that their respective countries could well do without. Kim is one of them. Nicolas Maduro is another. Rodrigo Duterte may well be another depending on your particular point of view. People talk about overthrowing leaders all the time. Get over it.

4. You must have suffered a major lapse in memory. I vividly recall you rhapsodizing about your hair color and style. You must've blocked that phase out of your mind. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

5. What a load of bullshit. This alone speaks volumes about the type of person I'm attempting to reason with.

6. More bullshit. I can't be bothered to search..... but you regularly spewed tons of threads and posts disparaging the whole Paralympics thing and seemed to have some real anger issues about it.

7. Normal people.... or at least those from my planet..... don't joke around about punching babies. I could joke around about assassinating a world leader and it would come off better than you joking about punching babies. But it goes with the rest of your personality. Just like you to want to punch someone who can't punch back.

8. Well whoopie for you, Miles. At least you found a place where you can fit in, since you obviously failed to do so back home.

9. Not a homophobe, Miles. Some of my best friends are gay. I'm a firm believer you can do with your anus as you like. More power to you.

10. "The rockets stopped long ago." Cool story, bro. And Kim will never ever lob them over Japan ever again. Crosses his heart and hopes to die. By the way, I've got some beachfront property in Nebraska to sell you if you're interested.

11. Where do you get this shit from? Just wondering. Ok I'll humor you. You have NOT changed. You're still the same ol' Miles we've come to laugh at and love.


I'm thinking maybe I should at least feign anger with you. You seem so bent on this "getting a rise" out of me that I'm actually starting to feel a bit guilty that I'm not. Your tired lines about me "calming down", you "getting a rise" out of me, and all those other things began to sound hollow and fall on deaf ears eons ago. It passed Sad Territory and is well into Pathetic Country. What can I do to make that better? You want me to threaten to kill you and piss on you? Would that get a gay little smile out of you? Well ok..... but you'll have to beg.

1. As strange as it might seem, I do not consider you to be average for your country. You come across as pretty traditional and I actually think that is a positive. I am sure you have 3 meals a day. Mind you many of the better to do North Koreans get their 3 meals a day too. However, many did not during the famine and that is of course terrible.

2. Brock was just winding you up with that thread. It was general rather than personal too. He is a tease.

3. Hmm. Look at Libya and Iraq. Sometimes we should be more cautious. Will it cause more harm than good? They said the same about Castro, but I am glad they did not kill him. He was far from perfect, but there are usually two sides to every coin. With NK we are seeing change and that is a difference. Give it time.

4. My hair has not changed in color since I was at University. It has grown slightly longer on occasion if I have been too lazy to get it cut. Now actually I did one time buy some equipment and shave it all off. But never again. That was many years ago. I have contemplated growing a beard. But hair generally stays the same. I cannot experiment with it.

5. This was an attempt at humor. It is true though. A tattoo is self harm. A piercing is self harm. A cut is self harm. It is a very common thing. William Burroughs cut off a finger joint. Van Gogh cut off a portion of his ear. Look through history and you see many people who have done this at some stage. If it is temporary then it is okay, if it gets serious and legs are self amputated, you have something very serious going on.

6. Nope. That is you unable to comprehend my simple point which even Andre and Mark Tko and many others agreed with which is that the Paralympics is not as relevant as the Olympics proper. Why would I have anything against someone who had their leg blown off in a war? Do not be so silly. I just think it is true to say that people enjoy regular Pro tennis more than the disabled events. It's cool that they play and good for them, but it will never be as popular. That is you, like Beanz, wanting to put me into a box that isn't real.

7. Come on now, 'Punch a Baby' could be Monty Python sketch. A football game with a baby being punted about crying. It's silly.

8. Strange argument again. The only 'failure' I have ever confessed to was a dissatisfaction that in my company Unions were outlawed, that company pensions were abolished and that share owners were prioritized over labour. That became common in the UK. After 5 years I left that company and began a new career in a new place. I don't really see what was a failure about that. Failure is having 3 kids with 3 different Dad's and never having a job. Failure is going to prison for murder. Failure is going bankrupt. What have I ever failed exactly? I studied, I worked, I paid my taxes, I have never really understood that argument. That was a Beanz argument and it never made sense that I was being told this by someone who was selling his own possessions because he was so broke. If you want to parrot that then you can, but trust me, I probably do a little bit better than that. The only thing I sold was a piano and it was because I couldn't play the damn thing.

9. Pfft. Every straight man says that these days. Let's hang out in the gay bar and see how liberal you are. Totally fine with me.

10. Not an argument.

11. You said it yourself. You said I have come a long way or some such nonsense.

[TitoFan]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

[TitoFan]

But again..... who am I to judge. You want to cut yourself with razor blades and claim every great man has self-induced scars? Go for it.

I'm trying to turn over a new leaf here. It's called emphatic listening toward the emotionally scarred and disadvantaged.

Tell us more, Miles. I'm genuinely interested.

[walrus]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

Damn miles and Brock figured me out. A little self harm never hurt anyone. I disliked like your post just for the fun of it, I do it too master all the time. Let me dislike your other one now. By the way, Kim is the man, that hairstyle does it for me. Kim is the central bank and congress (actually China is) but u gotta love best Korea. Vietnam and other wars are in the past. I don’t blame Germany or japan for WW2 anymore. Every country has sin. Best Korea needs to fix things up, if the starvation stories are accuarate it is worse than invading another country, it is war on your own people.

[TitoFan]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

Damn miles and Brock figured me out. A little self harm never hurt anyone. I disliked like your post just for the fun of it, I do it too master all the time. Let me dislike your other one now. By the way, Kim is the man, that hairstyle does it for me. Kim is the central bank and congress (actually China is) but u gotta love best Korea. Vietnam and other wars are in the past. I don’t blame Germany or japan for WW2 anymore. Every country has sin. Best Korea needs to fix things up, if the starvation stories are accuarate it is worse than invading another country, it is war on your own people.

Maybe I'm just prejudiced, Walrus. It's probably that cherubic looking, rotund face that has thrown me for a loop. World leaders are not supposed to look cherubic.

[Gandalf]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

Are you really trying to have an adult conversation? It is funny because it is FUNNY! I don't think you realize just how dry I am. I am a very funny poster.

[TitoFan]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

Are you really trying to have an adult conversation? It is funny because it is FUNNY! I don't think you realize just how dry I am. I am a very funny poster.

Self adulation is not an endearing trait, Miles. Maybe we should start with that on the road to improvement.

I'll continue pointing out such blunders as a public service free of charge.

[Gandalf]

Every great man has a self induced scar. Walrus self harms regularly by breaking bones and things. Every man does this. Even a tattoo is an act of self sabotage.

With this statement alone, the prosecution rests.

When one is attempting to have an adult conversation, and something like this is said, it's best to look away so the chuckle won't be too obvious.

Are you really trying to have an adult conversation? It is funny because it is FUNNY! I don't think you realize just how dry I am. I am a very funny poster.

Self adulation is not an endearing trait, Miles. Maybe we should start with that on the road to improvement.

I'll continue pointing out such blunders as a public service free of charge.

You wondered why you were laughing, I was pointing out the obvious. It is funny because it is.....funny.

[Gandalf]

Right, I don't know what time it is there, but we have been doing this for about 2 hours and that is 2 hours too long. I have paperwork to do, so that's me done on this one.

Let's just agree on the following points.

1. Yes, I am funny.
2. Rocket lobbing is uncool.
3. We want more freedom for the NK's.
4. We want more responsible parenting.

If we agree on these things, then all is solved.

[TitoFan]

Right, I don't know what time it is there, but we have been doing this for about 2 hours and that is 2 hours too long. I have paperwork to do, so that's me done on this one.

Let's just agree on the following points.

1. Yes, I am funny.
2. Rocket lobbing is uncool.
3. We want more freedom for the NK's.
4. We want more responsible parenting.

If we agree on these things, then all is solved.

Wow that's not a bad list. #1 I still have problems with, though.