Ben Davison - Trainer of the year?

[Primo Carnera]

Fury was similar really. He was just in better shape. Technically he was the same as always. Fury knows more about boxing than his trainer and Roach knows more than both of them. When you have trained Toney and Pac you have seen it all. If Roach thinks mistakes were made then so be it. It's up to him where and how he says it. No need for any tears.

No need for any tears, you’re right. But there’s a difference between “tears” and calling someone a snakey cunt. And Roach is a snakey cunt.
Just because he’s trained some good guys, who by the way weren’t with him their whole careers, so it’s debatable what he gave them, doesn’t mean he’s not a snakey cunt.

I guess you saying he is a snakey cunt makes him a snakey cunt. I prefer to look at it more as if he wants to say something that he has observed then he is free to say it. Nobody is getting hurt by a trainer saying 'He should have encouraged him to go for it more and I wasn't impressed with the crying at the end'. It is a difference of opinion and big deal if Roach said it with the cameras on. I see that as being open and if Fury's team has an issue then they can talk to Roach and he will say the same if he hasn't already of course.

I happen to agree with him. Fury didn't win because in several rounds there were no more than a couple of punches between them and he got knocked down twice. At least take a few risks to get the win otherwise you probably won't get the win.

uh, me saying he's a snakey cunt doesn't make him a snakey cunt . HE IS A SNAKEY CUNT -FACT . Whether what he said is true or not, I'm not overly worried about , I think nearly everyone can see why he said what he said, but hey ho.
And the very fact that he doesn't have any detailed dealings with Fury means he has no clue what he is like, and what his strengths and weaknesses are .
OK, so let's entertain the possibility that Snakey was the main man in the Fury corner, and he instructs Fury to go for the KO . Then Fury gets KO'd! what does Snakey say then? I'm sure he'll squirm out of it and blame Fury , and onto the next mug!
Fury doesn't have relative power. The reason he doesn't have power is because of his movement. he never plants his feet to plug guys, because if he does, he negates his biggest asset , his awkward movement and style.
so when he negates that , he is also susceptible to getting floored himself, we've seen that before. He always gets back up, but the more times that happens, the more chance that eventually he won't get up . so he uses his Boxing skills, which to be fair is what it's all about anyway , isn't it ?
How would Snakey have even got Fury to this stage ? he would never have lost that weight with Snakey in Charge, because Snakey doesn't know the character and what makes him tick .
And that's the key. you have to understand the Man, build a relationship with him, it's the way he is.
Fuck me, Snakey can't even forge a relationship with Manny ffs. Manny letting him know through the media he won't be training him for the Broner fight and more or less saying "the old man needs a rest, he's not up to it."