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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Outside of being the unified belt holding champion- WBO, WBA, IBF and WBC- the biggest draw in boxing is being an undefeated fighter with 25 plus wins. Regardless of the ko percentage. But the wins must be somewhat substantive and well worth it.

    I'd say an undefeated champion is the top draw.

    Outside of that you have to have such a broad based appeal that people want to spend money to see you win or lose... Like Manny Pacqioua, who is a RARE case indeed.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Yes the zero adds an edge for me as they get in the 20 plus wins bracket.

    I can disregard close point decision losses too. Get kayoed though and that changes things
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    Julio Ceaser Chavez zero was legendary and fans wanted to see him get to 100 wins desperately.

    It got the the stage where one week he was fighting the best fighter in the world and the following match against the worst just so he could edge closer to that magic number.
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    Apart from Joe Calzaghe who is the only other british world champion to retire undefeated?

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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    To me it depends totally on how you've achieved your Big Zero.

    If you've gone about your career without perceptibly ducking anybody and happen to finish undefeated....... more power to you.

    If you, however, have picked-and-chosen.... carefully picking your way through your career.... preying on smaller, older, more inferior opposition, while ducking or letting big fights "marinate"..... then your Zero is worth squat.

    Mexican Ricardo "Finito" Lopez was a great example of the former. He finished undefeated, and took on all comers during his career.

    Mexican Saul "Ginger" Alvarez is on the opposite end of the spectrum. His Zero ain't worth shit. He's also a previously suspended cheater and weight manipulator to boot.

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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    Apart from Joe Calzaghe who is the only other british world champion to retire undefeated?
    Terry Marsh although he did draw one fight with Lloyd Christie.

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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    I personally think there is too much focus on undefeated records. To me it's more about who you are fighting and how you are performing.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I personally think there is too much focus on undefeated records. To me it's more about who you are fighting and how you are performing.
    Agreed. It definitely helps, but absolutely nobody has all easy fights. You will have a bad day or a bad style match up. The tougher your competition, the more likely you will be to lose. To real boxing fans, a loss isn’t a huge deal as long as you come back from it.

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