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    Default Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    How important and relevant has it been in modern boxing to retain that Zero? Is it that important in selling a fighter or has it actually turned a lot of people off watching more evenly matched or challenging opponents dismissed in favour of more predictable outcomes?

    Interesting example of how the argument is often misrepresented here

    https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2...modern-boxing/


    In it the author argues that in facing Ortiz and Fury, Wilder faced two of the toughest opponents in boxing. This for the writer, and many who follow boxing ( including the casuals or noobs etc) represents an example of Wilder as now having faced more dangerous opponents than Joshua. Has he really though? An old medication reliant Ortiz and Fury looking far from impressive in his long comeback from inactivity and being overweight. Fury was never going to be a big risk one punch wise and will now be held up as a dangerous opponent again in the rematch.

    I don't want to just focus on Wilder and the article but it highlights how the whole debate is often discussed with any real ideas of objectivity thrown out of the window.

    Not even going to mention Floyd right now but he can't really be avoided in any meaningful discussion of the big zero.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Rocky Marciano probably started it and Floyd took it to that extra obnoxious level that made him a fortune out of it.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Outside of being the unified belt holding champion- WBO, WBA, IBF and WBC- the biggest draw in boxing is being an undefeated fighter with 25 plus wins. Regardless of the ko percentage. But the wins must be somewhat substantive and well worth it.

    I'd say an undefeated champion is the top draw.

    Outside of that you have to have such a broad based appeal that people want to spend money to see you win or lose... Like Manny Pacqioua, who is a RARE case indeed.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Yes the zero adds an edge for me as they get in the 20 plus wins bracket.

    I can disregard close point decision losses too. Get kayoed though and that changes things
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    Julio Ceaser Chavez zero was legendary and fans wanted to see him get to 100 wins desperately.

    It got the the stage where one week he was fighting the best fighter in the world and the following match against the worst just so he could edge closer to that magic number.
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    Default Re: Undefeated: The Big Zero?

    Apart from Joe Calzaghe who is the only other british world champion to retire undefeated?

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