The Brexit Thread

[TitoFan]

A second referendum or people vote would be bad.

The people voted and it was up to the government to deliver which they have failed to do miserably.

It was a surprise that Brexit won because nearly everything was in the remainers favour with business, prime minister, chancellor, leaflets, business etc all supporting remain.

Nothing will be gained with a second referendum other than give remainers another chance. There is no guarantee that the remainers will win because the EU have acted like cunts in this.

There are so many shades of Brexit that you will not get a consensus.

Real major screw up the whole thing.

If we leave on a no deal, so be it. I disagree with Labour not working with May by insisting taking no deal off the table.

wankers the lot of them.

The people voted, yes... but as Beanz said there seemed to be a lot of misinformation leading up to the vote. I just remember seeing interviews with Joe Blow and Jane Doe on the street following the results and some of them seemed bewildered about the ramifications, and some went as far as to say they would've voted against Brexit if they had known what it really meant. Doesn't sound like a lot of the population had all the facts in front of them. Under those circumstances, isn't at least the consideration of a 2nd referendum justified?

I can certainly sympathize with you guys, as we've had our share of referendums over here as well. In our case, and the one that mostly resembles yours, it's been the referendums on status, with choices of wanting statehood, preferring the status quo, or choosing independence. I can say from experience we've managed to f*ck up some of those referendums as well, and I blame the people in power who are supposed to make sure people are well informed before going off on some agenda-laden, half-cocked referendum.

Speaking as an outsider, it would seem the drawbacks would outweigh the benefits of leaving the EU, even if as you say the EU have been pricks about the whole thing. I'd venture to say if the rest of the EU was "referendum-ed" about Brexit, they'd likely vote against it. Again, it's always the politicians that manage to muck everything up. I guess that's why they get paid the big bucks.

[Mark TKO]

Beyond bored with the whole thing.

Have a second referendum or just decide to fucking stay in eu and let's be done with the whole fucking thing.

No one knows the true cost and implications of what's going to happen if we leave under whatever conditions. Into the void.

Whole thing is an embarrassment

[Master]

A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

Lets have a no deal bexit.

This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.

[TitoFan]

A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

Lets have a no deal bexit.

This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.

Obviously your opinion about Brexit is going to carry more weight, seeing as to how you actually live there.

But do you really think the EU would view a 2nd referendum that way? I think the EU loses in general when the UK leaves, and most Europeans would probably see it that way. Many would welcome a 2nd referendum.

The one issue I've always seen as a major factor in the whole Brexit thing is immigration.... maybe I'm wrong.

And it has been used by pro-Brexit constituents as a "fear factor", if you will, to convince the general public the UK would be safer withdrawing from the EU.

[walrus]

As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump

[Master]

As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump

It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.

[walrus]

As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump

It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.

We master I understand that argument but high corporation taxes encourage companies to set up shop in China where intellectual property is stolen. Corporations and private business are the ones who are supposed to employ people. It’s tough though, I see both sides of the equation. Our corporate tax was around 28 or 27 percent recently. If you can go to Vietnam and pay a quarter of that, why not. People in the US flee to states with lower taxes, what’s the difference. One time the government was going after Microsoft for anti trust and taxes. Bill Gates started shopping around to different countries. All of the sudden the government quieted down. Let me as you, do these massive corporations provide any other benefits to your country than taxes, which they are great at avoiding. If they left, I bet the impact would be much greater than losing that 17% rate. I’ll stop bitching about people not paying taxes once I find a way to stop bitching about paying taxes

[Master]

As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump

It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.

We master I understand that argument but high corporation taxes encourage companies to set up shop in China where intellectual property is stolen. Corporations and private business are the ones who are supposed to employ people. It’s tough though, I see both sides of the equation. Our corporate tax was around 28 or 27 percent recently. If you can go to Vietnam and pay a quarter of that, why not. People in the US flee to states with lower taxes, what’s the difference. One time the government was going after Microsoft for anti trust and taxes. Bill Gates started shopping around to different countries. All of the sudden the government quieted down. Let me as you, do these massive corporations provide any other benefits to your country than taxes, which they are great at avoiding. If they left, I bet the impact would be much greater than losing that 17% rate. I’ll stop bitching about people not paying taxes once I find a way to stop bitching about paying taxes

The big corporations need the British consumers and to get to them they should have to pay their fair share of tax which they are not.

[Master]

A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

Lets have a no deal bexit.

This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.

Obviously your opinion about Brexit is going to carry more weight, seeing as to how you actually live there.

But do you really think the EU would view a 2nd referendum that way? I think the EU loses in general when the UK leaves, and most Europeans would probably see it that way. Many would welcome a 2nd referendum.

The one issue I've always seen as a major factor in the whole Brexit thing is immigration.... maybe I'm wrong.

And it has been used by pro-Brexit constituents as a "fear factor", if you will, to convince the general public the UK would be safer withdrawing from the EU.

I know the EU would love for us to have a second referendum what i meant was that any nation that voted to leave would get a hard Brexit because EU would hope the electorate have another referendum hoping that they will stay the second time. That is underhand and wrong.

The people have voted and the politicians should deliver the mandate.