Fake News: An Age 14 Boy Who Did Nothing but Smile is Vilified by the Media

[Fenster]

All blown out of proportion but the innocent polite young christian boys narrative looks a little warped to me (ignoring the anti-abortion protest they claimed to be doing). It is, after all, an old pensioner just singing a song trying to promote peace, i'm sure he felt more intimidated by dozens of teenagers jumping around him drowning him out than they did.

[Gandalf]

All blown out of proportion but the innocent polite young christian boys narrative looks a little warped to me (ignoring the anti-abortion protest they claimed to be doing). It is, after all, an old pensioner just singing a song trying to promote peace, i'm sure he felt more intimidated by dozens of teenagers jumping around him drowning him out than they did.

He was the one who marched up to them, so he was hardly intimidated.

[Beanz]

Dig your heels in Miles, but then don't forget any pretense of objectivity is trampled into the dirt as you do so.

[Freedom]

Dig your heels in Miles, but then don't forget any pretense of objectivity is trampled into the dirt as you do so.

Why do you always need to be disingenuous? Miles is being fair and honest.

And it's pretence not pretense.



CJ Pearson@thecjpearson
Straight white males have faced more misguided, baseless racism these past few years than I’ve faced, as a black teen, in my entire life. Just look at what happened to the boys of Covington Catholic.

https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/sta...41097091825666

[Freedom]

[Beanz]

Dig your heels in Miles, but then don't forget any pretense of objectivity is trampled into the dirt as you do so.

Why do you always need to be disingenuous? Miles is being fair and honest.

And it's pretence not pretense.



CJ Pearson@thecjpearson
Straight white males have faced more misguided, baseless racism these past few years than I’ve faced, as a black teen, in my entire life. Just look at what happened to the boys of Covington Catholic.

https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/sta...41097091825666

Actually both are correct spellings and my phone unlike my pc is set up to use American English instead of British English so apologies to somebody who though apparently who unlike myself was not born on Britain is more British than me.

Miles has not been fair and honest for years much like you Freedom. Let's not pretend otherwise.

[Beanz]

Thanks Ryan an. I too watched that yesterday. Interestingly nobody here reparrotted the mainstream version and PJW still proves himself to be an unredeemable cunt in his own vomit Inducing self aggrandizing way.

Fensters point still stands though. The 'alternative' version still ignores the fact that 14 year old boys are supposedly marching telling adult women what to do with their bodies without any placards etc and the venom saved up for the native American vet by commentators after the fact has exposed many of those pretending to be objective.

[Gandalf]

You have never been honest or fair yourself Beanz. That is why people despise you. Everything I have said in this thread has been honest and fair and most of what I say is pretty factual. You lie as what you say in pm's to others is quite different to what you say on the forum. You also get things wrong whence Robinson being a free man. Why are you so angry? Had a bad week? Good.

[ryanman]

Thanks Ryan an. I too watched that yesterday. Interestingly nobody here reparrotted the mainstream version and PJW still proves himself to be an unredeemable cunt in his own vomit Inducing self aggrandizing way.

Fensters point still stands though. The 'alternative' version still ignores the fact that 14 year old boys are supposedly marching telling adult women what to do with their bodies without any placards etc and the venom saved up for the native American vet by commentators after the fact has exposed many of those pretending to be objective.

Agree with that Beanz. Objectivity seems lost on both sides though. I'm fed up with having to use disclaimers like 'I'm liberal but..' or 'I'm of the left but...' to preempt an assumption that people only put forward a view that supports their agenda/entrenched position. The sad thing is that assumption is true in many cases.

I can see in this thread that for some people its just about agenda, and as you imply, they wouldn't have put up links and videos that didn't support their wider views.

I'm not sure what's worse, people that only put forward a view that supports their wider views/politics, or people that assume that's what everyone does and therefore make people wary of adding weight to a cause they don't believe in:


'I better not defend some kids on an anti-abortion march wearing MAGA hats because I'll be deemed to support those views, as well as all the other views that usually go with those'.

That is pure intellectual-fuckery and both the left and right are equally guilty of it.

[Freedom]

Thanks Ryan an. I too watched that yesterday. Interestingly nobody here reparrotted the mainstream version and PJW still proves himself to be an unredeemable cunt in his own vomit Inducing self aggrandizing way.

Fensters point still stands though. The 'alternative' version still ignores the fact that 14 year old boys are supposedly marching telling adult women what to do with their bodies without any placards etc and the venom saved up for the native American vet by commentators after the fact has exposed many of those pretending to be objective.

The 14 year old boys who were vilified by the media have every right to participate in a pro-life march. The USA isn't a totalitarian country.

If you were honest and objective, you'd be critical of the mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC, BBC) defamation of the kids. Would the media do that to a group of 14 year old Jewish kids in a march to support Israel's war crimes? Of course not.

Do you support this: https://www.rt.com/usa/449368-disney...ens-maga-kids/

‘MAGA kids go into the woodchipper’: Disney producer tweets violent threat against Covington boys


By the way, "reparrotted" is not a word, if you never learned to spell you should use a spell check.

[Gandalf]

A mild witicism does not detract from what is obvious. The boy did nothing wrong in that situation. It is a nothing story.

[ryanman]

If you have a spare 1hr 45mins then this is the video that the Black Hebrew Israelites (BHI) filmed.

If you know what a liberal cunt I am then you'll know I'm not putting this to support an agenda. But because its true.



The drummer walks in around 1hr 12. But if you take it from there you miss context. I watched most of the video this morning and what happened is -


- 5 members of the BHI are shouting religious and political slogans. Hateful ones. They are first of all challenged by a few Native Americans and engage in some sort of conversation with them (though they are mostly just shouting at the Native Americans).

- The BHI then start directing their shouts at the group of students that have started to gather. This goes on for over an hour. The students are not doing much at this point. It's mostly anti-white, anti-america stuff for this time with a dose of 'faggot this' 'faggot that'.

- After some time the students have got a little closer. They then start doing their school chants. After a couple of minutes of that, the elder with the drum marches towards them with a few people in tow. They are beating the drum to the beat of the chants. The students part as he walks into the crowd and jump and dance around him. Their versions afterwards say they thought he was joining in with them. I have to say that i think the video supports that. At this point in this video you can't see him come face to face with the lad, but given how it is unfolding, and marrying it up with other videos, I fully believe that he was just staying non-confrontational. The chanting stopped suddenly (according to the students it was when they realised the drummer was not drumming with them).

- After the drummer leaves the BHI and students start interacting again. Much more closely. And this part (watch from 1hr17 on) is the most instructive.

- The students are told that 'their' president is a homosexual. To which you hear 'most of us can't vote' and someone else say 'I voted for *inaudible*' but clearly someone other than Trump.
They are called crackers. Multiple times.
They are called young Klansmen. Which they challenge.
They are told that their money says 'In God we trust' but 'you give faggots rights' - this is roundly booed. You hear students asking why they are attacking them etc.
After more racist hateful words the students call their black mate forward. Tokenism maybe, but the black lad looks angry as fuck and ready to go for the BHI and is held back by his mates as he is called 'Nigga' by the BHI, and told he will have his organs harvested.

And so it goes on.

After the kids leave suddenly (their bus has arrived) the BHI start shouting at a separate group of people that were engaging in a 'peace circle'.


The boys did nothing wrong, they were provoked, and didn't react for over an hour, at which time they responded with chants.
The old Indian, from a distance away, seeing this large group chanting, in confrontation with a much smaller group, assumed the large group was the aggressors and marched in to diffuse it. He also described walking between 'beast and prey'. He got it wrong.


That's the truth, despite the MAGA hats and the fact they were on an anti-abortion march.

[Fenster]

All blown out of proportion but the innocent polite young christian boys narrative looks a little warped to me (ignoring the anti-abortion protest they claimed to be doing). It is, after all, an old pensioner just singing a song trying to promote peace, i'm sure he felt more intimidated by dozens of teenagers jumping around him drowning him out than they did.

He was the one who marched up to them, so he was hardly intimidated.

The point is Miles, if people are complaining about bias media at least get the story/facts right instead of peddling your own fake bias where the teenagers are portrayed as angels and the old man a hostile, professional victim bullshitter.

Just look at the links provided in this thread, the old man is accused of saying things the Black Hebrew Israelites said. The people rubbishing the old man are just as pathetic as the ones calling for a smiling teenager to have his face punched in. That's all.

And I felt nervy for the old man seeing dozens and dozens of bods jumping around him regardless of whether or not he chose to step there, as I would anyone in a situation where they're greatly outnumbered.

[Gandalf]

I did not say he was saying those things. I said he was the one who marched up to the kids whilst banging a drum. He didn't look very nervy and in fact was rather ballsy. Do you disagree with that? It is very simple.

I have seen the full video myself too. Anybody with ears and eyes can see and hear. It's a lot of hullabaloo over very little. Especially when it comes to the grinning kid who handled himself well and now finds himself condemned by social and national media.

[ryanman]

All blown out of proportion but the innocent polite young christian boys narrative looks a little warped to me (ignoring the anti-abortion protest they claimed to be doing). It is, after all, an old pensioner just singing a song trying to promote peace, i'm sure he felt more intimidated by dozens of teenagers jumping around him drowning him out than they did.

He was the one who marched up to them, so he was hardly intimidated.

The point is Miles, if people are complaining about bias media at least get the story/facts right instead of peddling your own fake bias where the teenagers are portrayed as angels and the old man a hostile, professional victim bullshitter.

Just look at the links provided in this thread, the old man is accused of saying things the Black Hebrew Israelites said. The people rubbishing the old man are just as pathetic as the ones calling for a smiling teenager to have his face punched in. That's all.

And I felt nervy for the old man seeing dozens and dozens of bods jumping around him regardless of whether or not he chose to step there, as I would anyone in a situation where they're greatly outnumbered.

Agree with all that Fenster, apart from the 'outnumbered' bit as that implies some hostility. Might be wrong but it seemed to me that the students (mistakenly) thought it was a positive interaction with the old man.
Why anyone would now have a go at the man though baffles me. He was trying to do a good thing even if he misjudged what was occuring.