Is the earth flat?

[TitoFan]

You provide more questions than answers, Alpha. You see that, don’t you? Give me a practical demonstration of water adhering to a spherical shape. Give me a practical demonstration of gravity. Give me a practical demonstration of the heliocentric model of the Earth, Sun and Moon.

What about you? Give ME a demonstration of a celestial body circling above a flat plane without any explicable forces keeping it in such a rotation. If the Earth is flat, what is its shape? Please don’t tell me you don’t know or don’t care. Give me alternatives. A sphere is a sphere is a sphere. You can walk around it, sail around it, fly around it. Explain the geometry of the flat Earth. Explain why and what holds the Sun and Moon in their respective circles above the flat Earth. Explain how it’s night and day simultaneously in different parts of the Earth. I’m sorry, but the animations I’ve seen don’t quite cut it. At least with the heliocentric model, gravity explains everything. Gravity holds the atmosphere against the surface of the Earth. Gravity holds the oceans against the surface of the Earth. Gravity holds the Moon in orbit.

Demonstration of gravity? Sorry… fresh out. I can’t conjure up a mass of 5.9 x 10²⁴ kg in order to replicate the effects of gravity. Anything other than that, we’re fooling ourselves. Let’s go back to air pressure again, because you insist on the barrier. And I’m sorry, but the key here is gravity, which you don’t believe in. Gravity is the key to the whole show, I’m afraid. If you WERE to believe in gravity, I would tell you that because gravity holds the atmosphere to the surface of the Earth, the air pressure is greatest at sea level. As you go up in altitude, this pressure gradually decreases, due to the lesser quantity of air molecules present. At some point, you go from zero pressure and cross over into what is known as a partial vacuum, which as you go further into space, becomes a deeper, or stronger vacuum. Why don’t the air molecules in the pressured area drift or move to the lesser pressured area? There’s that dreaded G-word again….. gravity. The force of gravity overcomes the forces that would move the air from a higher pressure area to a lower pressure area. The container, barrier, whatever you want to call it? The surface of the Earth. That is the "wall" the air is pressed up against. I'm sorry... that's the best I can do.

Gravity’s the key to the whole thing. But you don’t believe in it. You believe objects fall to the ground because of density. Tell me… how dense is the Sun and the Moon? Shouldn’t they come crashing down to the surface of the Earth? I can’t think of much denser objects than the Sun, can you?

You see…. If you want to convince round Earthers that they’re wrong, you’ve got to have alternative truths to prove to them. You just can’t say water doesn’t conform to a sphere and expect to leave it at that. A round Earth model needs no “end”…. no “edge”. Again, you can go around it endlessly. If it’s flat, where does it end? That question cannot be left unanswered. Otherwise, you’re just questioning things without an alternative.

The circling of the Sun and Moon is a big deal here. The heliocentric model explains night and day. Flat Earthers models don’t. And if they attempt to, it’s shoddy and unbelievable.