Fury-Wilder Off. Who do they fight now?

[Beanz]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

[Primo Carnera]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

“Build it for September”? Up until a week ago, it didn’t need “building”. I thought the first fight did that?
This bullshit talk is just so they can buy time and so that the upcoming opponents and matchups aren’t criticised too much .
Like I said before, you can’t blame Fury, who wouldn’t take that dough?
I see the WBC Head honcho has Put a few sound bites out today, but they’re as much to blame for this Mexican stand off. They’ve let the tail wag the dog for far too long.
The one who must be feeling the most vulnerable and pissed off is Wilder! Fury and Joshua’s dough is locked in whoever they’re fighting, while Wilder will still be on relative peanuts without them two.
Ironic really. The twat didn’t want to take on anyone remotely good in 40 fights. Now he’s gonna have to beg for a piece of the action.
Still, he’ll be fine . After all , he’s a “Free agent” and he’s got Al Haymon advising him.

[Beanz]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

[TitoFan]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

For the record, I was one of those people who mostly raked Hearn over the coals for wanting to offer Wilder table scraps. It was his fault the fight was not made, and Fury jumped in instead. So, one potential huge matchup ruined. Then, Fury and Wilder unexpectedly gave boxing fans a show for the ages and fans were happy again, having forgotten about the Wilder-AJ circus. Then we get all worked up about a rematch and, just as it was dangling before our anxious eyes, it was snatched away by the Promoter-TV Network Mafia Conglomerate Whatever. So, another potential huge matchup ruined. We keeping score yet? We're like the jilted bride, who keeps going back to the altar, only to get dumped again.

So how about Fury? So..... we have some people on here that, although totally disappointed like the rest of us, magnanimously whimper that "they don't blame Fury for taking the huge deal"?? LMAO. Jilted brides are tough, hardened thugs compared with the lot of us in here. Fury came out of nowhere... oblivion... to suddenly make a name for himself on the global stage by staging a classic with Fury. So now he suddenly bolts from a rematch because of Slimy Arum and his Mafia cohorts?? So where's all this tough talk about not being scared and wanting to be the people's champion? I guess that got beat out of him in the 12th round of their first fight.

Bottom line here is we continue being the puppets on a whole bunch of strings. Arum should be in a home by now, instead of continuing to ruin boxing for the fans. I thought a new breed of promoters was going to make dinosaurs like Arum obsolete but unfortunately between Fishnets and Floyd, they're almost making us long for the likes of King and Arum again.

Boxing inside the ring is great. Everything outside the ring is total B.S.

[Mr140]

Sure the fight will happen as long as there money to be made it will happen. I will say that I am happy that boxers are getting paid well go out there to become brain dead at least get a good pay check.

[Spicoli]

I definitely still think it will happen but boxing is stacked with shifts and tides. The appeal of a rematch was that we never expected what was produced. Fans love those kind of surprises. I believe Wilder should bend over backwards to right his ship and get that needed W. His move is either sideways or backwards save for rematch imo. Arum may over milk this and miss his sell by date or worse either guy running into a surprise brick, busted hand or AJ having an explosive U.S debut and pulling some eyes and demand away on Wilders home stage. Or Baby Huey Miller can shock the world and we'd get a an all U.S New York heavyweight unification . Hey a fella can dream can't he . More likely rematch clause.

[Ron Swanson]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

For the record, I was one of those people who mostly raked Hearn over the coals for wanting to offer Wilder table scraps. It was his fault the fight was not made, and Fury jumped in instead. So, one potential huge matchup ruined. Then, Fury and Wilder unexpectedly gave boxing fans a show for the ages and fans were happy again, having forgotten about the Wilder-AJ circus. Then we get all worked up about a rematch and, just as it was dangling before our anxious eyes, it was snatched away by the Promoter-TV Network Mafia Conglomerate Whatever. So, another potential huge matchup ruined. We keeping score yet? We're like the jilted bride, who keeps going back to the altar, only to get dumped again.

So how about Fury? So..... we have some people on here that, although totally disappointed like the rest of us, magnanimously whimper that "they don't blame Fury for taking the huge deal"?? LMAO. Jilted brides are tough, hardened thugs compared with the lot of us in here. Fury came out of nowhere... oblivion... to suddenly make a name for himself on the global stage by staging a classic with Fury. So now he suddenly bolts from a rematch because of Slimy Arum and his Mafia cohorts?? So where's all this tough talk about not being scared and wanting to be the people's champion? I guess that got beat out of him in the 12th round of their first fight.

Bottom line here is we continue being the puppets on a whole bunch of strings. Arum should be in a home by now, instead of continuing to ruin boxing for the fans. I thought a new breed of promoters was going to make dinosaurs like Arum obsolete but unfortunately between Fishnets and Floyd, they're almost making us long for the likes of King and Arum again.

Boxing inside the ring is great. Everything outside the ring is total B.S.

You are the only person I see making sense about this

[Ron Swanson]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

I’m here criticizing Bob as he should be and I always do, and still criticizing Hearn as he should be. They are both liars and milk boxing fans. I used to wish Bob would go away but it would make no difference since the new Bob is already here. Crazy thing is Bob is honest,,,,when compared to Hearn.

[Fenster]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

I’m here criticizing Bob as he should be and I always do, and still criticizing Hearn as he should be. They are both liars and milk boxing fans. I used to wish Bob would go away but it would make no difference since the new Bob is already here. Crazy thing is Bob is honest,,,,when compared to Hearn.

Yet you never criticise Al Haymon or his mob. It's OK we all know why....

[Freedom]

I'm disappointed in Fury for avoiding the rematch with Wilder. Even though Wilder demanded home country advantage, he should have gone through with it.

By the way, it's obvious to me that both Wilder and Fury have been avoiding Joshua. Props to Miller for having the courage to fight the beat heavyweight in the world.

[TitoFan]

I'm disappointed in Fury for avoiding the rematch with Wilder. Even though Wilder demanded home country advantage, he should have gone through with it.

By the way, it's obvious to me that both Wilder and Fury have been avoiding Joshua. Props to Miller for having the courage to fight the beat heavyweight in the world.

Disappointed in Fury? So am I. As I've said many times over, we can sit here like the jilted brides of boxing and pretend we care more about Fury's new contract than we do about The Rematch that was ingloriously snatched away.

But where do get your "Wilder and Fury have been avoiding Joshua" theory? Do you not agree that Team Joshua made an embarrassing offer to Wilder, only to have the proceedings drag on like a soap opera?

"Oh but Wilder isn't as good as Joshua and attracts less fans." Yeah yeah yeah..... I've heard that song and dance a million times.

We were talking two undefeated champions here, one from the U.S. and one from the UK. The perfect chance to stage a HW championship fight for the ages. Instead, Team Joshua chose to pussyfoot around until Fury stepped in and stole his thunder.

When has a legitimate offer been made to either Wilder or Fury to fight Joshua?? Fury I can understand. He just got back from a self-imposed hiatus and just crashed the HW scene again.

But regardless of what anybody thinks of Wilder, he's still one of the HW champs. Team Joshua's proceedings were degrading and insulting.

You want to prove how much better you are than Wilder? Do what Fury did..... get in the ring with him and let your fists do the talking.



Arum, Hearn, et al remain the scourge of boxing, with Fishnets right up there with them. They dangle fans on a string and reduce them to talking about who got the best contract.

Only in boxing...........

[Ron Swanson]

So it seems the 50/50 rematch deal with Wilder, Fury had and yet never signed, has now gone.

So where are the people who fell over themselves to claim Joshua was ducking Wilder and Hearn wanted an unfair cut of a badly stacked deal. What do they think Arum is trying to do with Wilder and Fury? Insisting on multiple fights before milking the cash cows dry and yet silence on Bob?

Hmmm. (:

https://www.boxingscene.com/furys-du...-offer--136473

I’m here criticizing Bob as he should be and I always do, and still criticizing Hearn as he should be. They are both liars and milk boxing fans. I used to wish Bob would go away but it would make no difference since the new Bob is already here. Crazy thing is Bob is honest,,,,when compared to Hearn.

Yet you never criticise Al Haymon or his mob. It's OK we all know why....

Tell me why, please enlighten us, please please please

[Ron Swanson]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

“Build it for September”? Up until a week ago, it didn’t need “building”. I thought the first fight did that?
This bullshit talk is just so they can buy time and so that the upcoming opponents and matchups aren’t criticised too much .
Like I said before, you can’t blame Fury, who wouldn’t take that dough?
I see the WBC Head honcho has Put a few sound bites out today, but they’re as much to blame for this Mexican stand off. They’ve let the tail wag the dog for far too long.
The one who must be feeling the most vulnerable and pissed off is Wilder! Fury and Joshua’s dough is locked in whoever they’re fighting, while Wilder will still be on relative peanuts without them two.
Ironic really. The twat didn’t want to take on anyone remotely good in 40 fights. Now he’s gonna have to beg for a piece of the action.
Still, he’ll be fine . After all , he’s a “Free agent” and he’s got Al Haymon advising him.

You are criticizing the guy who wants to fight while lauding the guys that avoided fighting. You have issues.

[Primo Carnera]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

“Build it for September”? Up until a week ago, it didn’t need “building”. I thought the first fight did that?
This bullshit talk is just so they can buy time and so that the upcoming opponents and matchups aren’t criticised too much .
Like I said before, you can’t blame Fury, who wouldn’t take that dough?
I see the WBC Head honcho has Put a few sound bites out today, but they’re as much to blame for this Mexican stand off. They’ve let the tail wag the dog for far too long.
The one who must be feeling the most vulnerable and pissed off is Wilder! Fury and Joshua’s dough is locked in whoever they’re fighting, while Wilder will still be on relative peanuts without them two.
Ironic really. The twat didn’t want to take on anyone remotely good in 40 fights. Now he’s gonna have to beg for a piece of the action.
Still, he’ll be fine . After all , he’s a “Free agent” and he’s got Al Haymon advising him.

You are criticizing the guy who wants to fight while lauding the guys that avoided fighting. You have issues.

After 40 fights fighting bums, he wants to fight someone. The only reason he wants to fight them is because THEY BRING THE MONEY.
They’ll fight him when THEY’RE good and ready. He couldn’t put an undercooked Fury away and now he’s talking like some kind of Superhero. Issues,

[Ron Swanson]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

“Build it for September”? Up until a week ago, it didn’t need “building”. I thought the first fight did that?
This bullshit talk is just so they can buy time and so that the upcoming opponents and matchups aren’t criticised too much .
Like I said before, you can’t blame Fury, who wouldn’t take that dough?
I see the WBC Head honcho has Put a few sound bites out today, but they’re as much to blame for this Mexican stand off. They’ve let the tail wag the dog for far too long.
The one who must be feeling the most vulnerable and pissed off is Wilder! Fury and Joshua’s dough is locked in whoever they’re fighting, while Wilder will still be on relative peanuts without them two.
Ironic really. The twat didn’t want to take on anyone remotely good in 40 fights. Now he’s gonna have to beg for a piece of the action.
Still, he’ll be fine . After all , he’s a “Free agent” and he’s got Al Haymon advising him.

You are criticizing the guy who wants to fight while lauding the guys that avoided fighting. You have issues.

After 40 fights fighting bums, he wants to fight someone. The only reason he wants to fight them is because THEY BRING THE MONEY.
They’ll fight him when THEY’RE good and ready. He couldn’t put an undercooked Fury away and now he’s talking like some kind of Superhero. Issues,

Again, defending ducking. You should support Eddie, you should support Bob. You are exactly the fish they are looking for. The hook is deep. You can see the Kool Aid on your lips in text