Is the earth flat?

[TitoFan]

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

[Alpha]

The fucking internet should be shut down.

Why? Because people want to question claims using actual real science?

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

I'm an individual Tito and don't align myself with any groups or organizations. Those making money of the truth are in it for the wrong reasons. They have conferences and that type of crap, charging for what should be free. I just merely question the claims of the globe using science.

Again I'm not trying to convert anyone, just providing the truth using science. I have always advised others to do their own research and decide for themselves.

I do believe in a creator, but it is only a belief, because I have no empirical evidence to prove that belief. See the difference?

Where as the earth is demonstrably level.

So we have over 200 replies in this thread and no one has provided anything quantifiable for the globe, or anything scientific evidence for it. So where I can provide scientific proof that destroy the claims of the globe, all I have received are assertions and assumptions. Nothing based on science. So who is really brainwashed here?

No measurable curvature.

No scientific evidence that a body of water can conform to the exterior of a shape, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence that a gas can be created without a container, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence of the motion of the earth?

No scientific evidence of mass attracting to mass in the natural world?

But, but, but I saw pictures, I've seen it on TV.

Come on, they say they have known the earth was a globe for over 2 thousand years, it should be easy to provide something quantifiable to prove the globe.

[Kirkland Laing]

The fucking internet should be shut down.

Why? Because people want to question claims using actual real science?

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

I'm an individual Tito and don't align myself with any groups or organizations. Those making money of the truth are in it for the wrong reasons. They have conferences and that type of crap, charging for what should be free. I just merely question the claims of the globe using science.

Again I'm not trying to convert anyone, just providing the truth using science. I have always advised others to do their own research and decide for themselves.

I do believe in a creator, but it is only a belief, because I have no empirical evidence to prove that belief. See the difference?

Where as the earth is demonstrably level.

So we have over 200 replies in this thread and no one has provided anything quantifiable for the globe, or anything scientific evidence for it. So where I can provide scientific proof that destroy the claims of the globe, all I have received are assertions and assumptions. Nothing based on science. So who is really brainwashed here?

No measurable curvature.

No scientific evidence that a body of water can conform to the exterior of a shape, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence that a gas can be created without a container, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence of the motion of the earth?

No scientific evidence of mass attracting to mass in the natural world?

But, but, but I saw pictures, I've seen it on TV.

Come on, they say they have known the earth was a globe for over 2 thousand years, it should be easy to provide something quantifiable to prove the globe.

Fuck off mate. Just fuck off out of it. You're talking to an actual rocket scientist. That's what I'm actually qualified to do anyway. None of these videos are in any way based on science. They're all made by a load of grifters who make money making bullshit videos to fool fucking morons on youtube. The internet ought to be fucking shut down.

Another good reason to shut it down:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/1...itions-arizona

[TitoFan]

https://steemit.com/flatearth/@kerri...-earth-memes-1

[Alpha]

Alpha you just entirely made up things that i am supposedly claiming in order to play pretend again.I never mentioned an ice wall so you obviously don't even understand the very basics of debating. All you have done is admit that actually not only do you believe in gravity but you like everyone else see how it demonstrates itself with water everyday.

Of course water can curve, waves are motion, and droplets are caused due to surface tension. I have already explained adhesion, cohesion and meniscus. These are properties of water that we understand and can test. That's not the claim of the globe. The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape. So where do we observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the natural world? Are you trying to claim that a drop of water has the same properties as a body of water? Or that earth is a drop of water?


You are trying to pretend that everyone else is as thick as pig shit in order to pretend you have an argument.The FACT is that because of gravity, water is pulled towards the centre of the spherical earth. That is precisely why it then fills the troughs and valleys on the surface of this globe. So you are using an argument for a spherical earth to play pretend.Just like the fucking tired old dog whistle to other fearthers

"Water finds it's own level"


That is not a scientific principle it is an old adage meaning like attracts like. Next you will be telling is that Sea Level proves the Earth is flat. "The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape."
That has never been the claim of anyone but you and some other very stupid people. Quite the reverse.

The link you posted made a claim of an ice wall. It is a proven fact that a body of water will fill it's container and the surface will be flat/ level/ horizontal whatever term you want to use. This is observable and testable in the natural world. Bodies of water can not conform to the exterior of a shape. The claim is that earth is a sphere, that is covered in more than 70% of water. That is the official claim. And therefore, bodies of water (not droplets of small volume) would need to conform to the exterior of a shape.

Again, show me where we can observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the physical and natural world.

The natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level. This is observable and testable.

And again you have mentioned gravity. So I'll ask again, where can we observe mass attracting to mass in the physical and natural world? And where did Newton observe this originally and what experiment did he perform to prove gravity?

Again you failed to provide even 1 quantifiable proof or scientific evidence for the globe.

You are the one also making false accusations, I am not trying to pretend anyone is a thick as pig sh-t. I am merely questioning the claims of the globe using real science and the scientific method.

You also failed to provide the measurements for the globe at each mile in inches. You claimed the Pythagorean theorem was an ancient method for measuring the curvature, so provide your method and measurements.

The fucking internet should be shut down.

Why? Because people want to question claims using actual real science?

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

I'm an individual Tito and don't align myself with any groups or organizations. Those making money of the truth are in it for the wrong reasons. They have conferences and that type of crap, charging for what should be free. I just merely question the claims of the globe using science.

Again I'm not trying to convert anyone, just providing the truth using science. I have always advised others to do their own research and decide for themselves.

I do believe in a creator, but it is only a belief, because I have no empirical evidence to prove that belief. See the difference?

Where as the earth is demonstrably level.

So we have over 200 replies in this thread and no one has provided anything quantifiable for the globe, or anything scientific evidence for it. So where I can provide scientific proof that destroy the claims of the globe, all I have received are assertions and assumptions. Nothing based on science. So who is really brainwashed here?

No measurable curvature.

No scientific evidence that a body of water can conform to the exterior of a shape, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence that a gas can be created without a container, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence of the motion of the earth?

No scientific evidence of mass attracting to mass in the natural world?

But, but, but I saw pictures, I've seen it on TV.

Come on, they say they have known the earth was a globe for over 2 thousand years, it should be easy to provide something quantifiable to prove the globe.

Fuck off mate. Just fuck off out of it. You're talking to an actual rocket scientist. That's what I'm actually qualified to do anyway. None of these videos are in any way based on science. They're all made by a load of grifters who make money making bullshit videos to fool fucking morons on youtube. The internet ought to be fucking shut down.

Another good reason to shut it down:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/1...itions-arizona

Great, then you should be able to explain to us where we can observe gas pressure being created without a container in the physical and natural world.

[p4pking]

Alpha is a fucking retard.

[TitoFan]

Alpha, if you're gonna be objective about it, you must notice certain things about how you've carried your argument thus far.


a. You claim your beliefs to be fact, and you deride anyone who doesn't share them, saying we've been bamboozled and stuff like that. That's what most of us object to.

b. You copy/paste the same definitions over and over again, as if by sheer repetition that somehow makes you more right than others.

c. You ask questions and demand answers... and yet when questions are asked of you, you conveniently ignore them and continue parroting your own questions.

d. You right off the cuff dismiss the hundreds of thousands of observations made by 3rd parties, lumping them into some sort of sinister conspiracy theory. Something on a scale that couldn't possibly be pulled off by so many people.

e. You continuously regurgitate the same statements/questions over and over and over again. A good example is the air pressure thing, which I pulverized into the ground and yet you keep parroting the container thing like a broken record. You basically ignored everything I explained to you about the matter.


I'll make a break here, to ask you about air pressure. Exactly what do YOU believe is the continuum or gradient of air pressure as you go up in altitude. Surely you believe instrumentation which measures gauge pressure at any altitude, right? Or are you going to parrot the container wall thing again for the millionth time. This is typical Flat Earther strategy. Refuse to answer questions and continue asking your own questions, as in a trance. On that regard, it's pretty much like any cult.


f. You say things that aren't scientifically based. "Water can curve"..... "waves are motion"..... WTF is that?? Honestly, it's a very simplistic way of talking about water, if you ask me. Sounds like something from a 3rd grade science class.... no offense.

g. You yourself have admitted to not knowing how certain FE claims are supposed to work, like the rotating Sun above the Earth, with no explainable force holding it in its circular pattern. And if you are honest, you'll admit the daylight/nighttime explanation given by FE'ers doesn't wash.



There's more... but you get the idea. Serious question: Are all FE'ers like you that you know of? Or are some actually open to beliefs other than their own? I've always felt that an intelligent human being should be open to changing his/her mind about something if presented with good counter arguments. You can't go around parroting things over and over again and expect an understanding audience.

Finally I'll leave you with this.

A big deal for you is the water. You don't believe in gravity, and yet you continuously attempt to scientifically explain why water settles at its lowest point. You describe the phenomenon, but offer no explanation as to why. Simply stating that water drops to its lowest point isn't an explanation. It's an attempt to sound scientific without offering a real, plausible explanation. Nothing on Earth moves without an acting force. Being a smart guy you know that already. So why do things fall at all? Why does water settle at its lowest point? Why does Earth's atmosphere stay close to the surface, creating that pressure gradient you apparently deny. () Why indeed? Gravity. If there's another force other than gravity, prove it. Let's have YOU doing some of the proving for a change. Like I've said before, the onus is on you to prove the Earth is flat. So far NOTHING you've ever said proves it. Observations of pools of water do nothing to prove it.

And finally....... I only answer questions once. You laughably want me to confirm to you the answer I first gave you regarding two objects dropped at the same time?? Try providing some answers of your own, instead of the constant parroting and regurgitation.

A final thought is that FE Conferences could use guest speakers dealing with the art of arguing. If you're a typical FE'er, you are all so fucking BAD at it.

[Kirkland Laing]

Alpha you just entirely made up things that i am supposedly claiming in order to play pretend again.I never mentioned an ice wall so you obviously don't even understand the very basics of debating. All you have done is admit that actually not only do you believe in gravity but you like everyone else see how it demonstrates itself with water everyday.

Of course water can curve, waves are motion, and droplets are caused due to surface tension. I have already explained adhesion, cohesion and meniscus. These are properties of water that we understand and can test. That's not the claim of the globe. The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape. So where do we observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the natural world? Are you trying to claim that a drop of water has the same properties as a body of water? Or that earth is a drop of water?


You are trying to pretend that everyone else is as thick as pig shit in order to pretend you have an argument.The FACT is that because of gravity, water is pulled towards the centre of the spherical earth. That is precisely why it then fills the troughs and valleys on the surface of this globe. So you are using an argument for a spherical earth to play pretend.Just like the fucking tired old dog whistle to other fearthers

"Water finds it's own level"


That is not a scientific principle it is an old adage meaning like attracts like. Next you will be telling is that Sea Level proves the Earth is flat. "The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape."
That has never been the claim of anyone but you and some other very stupid people. Quite the reverse.

The link you posted made a claim of an ice wall. It is a proven fact that a body of water will fill it's container and the surface will be flat/ level/ horizontal whatever term you want to use. This is observable and testable in the natural world. Bodies of water can not conform to the exterior of a shape. The claim is that earth is a sphere, that is covered in more than 70% of water. That is the official claim. And therefore, bodies of water (not droplets of small volume) would need to conform to the exterior of a shape.

Again, show me where we can observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the physical and natural world.

The natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level. This is observable and testable.

And again you have mentioned gravity. So I'll ask again, where can we observe mass attracting to mass in the physical and natural world? And where did Newton observe this originally and what experiment did he perform to prove gravity?

Again you failed to provide even 1 quantifiable proof or scientific evidence for the globe.

You are the one also making false accusations, I am not trying to pretend anyone is a thick as pig sh-t. I am merely questioning the claims of the globe using real science and the scientific method.

You also failed to provide the measurements for the globe at each mile in inches. You claimed the Pythagorean theorem was an ancient method for measuring the curvature, so provide your method and measurements.

The fucking internet should be shut down.

Why? Because people want to question claims using actual real science?

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

I'm an individual Tito and don't align myself with any groups or organizations. Those making money of the truth are in it for the wrong reasons. They have conferences and that type of crap, charging for what should be free. I just merely question the claims of the globe using science.

Again I'm not trying to convert anyone, just providing the truth using science. I have always advised others to do their own research and decide for themselves.

I do believe in a creator, but it is only a belief, because I have no empirical evidence to prove that belief. See the difference?

Where as the earth is demonstrably level.

So we have over 200 replies in this thread and no one has provided anything quantifiable for the globe, or anything scientific evidence for it. So where I can provide scientific proof that destroy the claims of the globe, all I have received are assertions and assumptions. Nothing based on science. So who is really brainwashed here?

No measurable curvature.

No scientific evidence that a body of water can conform to the exterior of a shape, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence that a gas can be created without a container, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence of the motion of the earth?

No scientific evidence of mass attracting to mass in the natural world?

But, but, but I saw pictures, I've seen it on TV.

Come on, they say they have known the earth was a globe for over 2 thousand years, it should be easy to provide something quantifiable to prove the globe.

Fuck off mate. Just fuck off out of it. You're talking to an actual rocket scientist. That's what I'm actually qualified to do anyway. None of these videos are in any way based on science. They're all made by a load of grifters who make money making bullshit videos to fool fucking morons on youtube. The internet ought to be fucking shut down.

Another good reason to shut it down:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/1...itions-arizona

Great, then you should be able to explain to us where we can observe gas pressure being created without a container in the physical and natural world.

If you didn't have gas-pressure-that's-not-in-a-container acting on you right now you'd expand and explode.

If the earth is flat how come it isn't daylight/nighttime at the same time everywhere on the disc? How do GPS systems work?

[walrus]

Alpha you just entirely made up things that i am supposedly claiming in order to play pretend again.I never mentioned an ice wall so you obviously don't even understand the very basics of debating. All you have done is admit that actually not only do you believe in gravity but you like everyone else see how it demonstrates itself with water everyday.

Of course water can curve, waves are motion, and droplets are caused due to surface tension. I have already explained adhesion, cohesion and meniscus. These are properties of water that we understand and can test. That's not the claim of the globe. The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape. So where do we observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the natural world? Are you trying to claim that a drop of water has the same properties as a body of water? Or that earth is a drop of water?


You are trying to pretend that everyone else is as thick as pig shit in order to pretend you have an argument.The FACT is that because of gravity, water is pulled towards the centre of the spherical earth. That is precisely why it then fills the troughs and valleys on the surface of this globe. So you are using an argument for a spherical earth to play pretend.Just like the fucking tired old dog whistle to other fearthers

"Water finds it's own level"


That is not a scientific principle it is an old adage meaning like attracts like. Next you will be telling is that Sea Level proves the Earth is flat. "The claim of the globe is that bodies of water can conform to the exterior of a shape."
That has never been the claim of anyone but you and some other very stupid people. Quite the reverse.

The link you posted made a claim of an ice wall. It is a proven fact that a body of water will fill it's container and the surface will be flat/ level/ horizontal whatever term you want to use. This is observable and testable in the natural world. Bodies of water can not conform to the exterior of a shape. The claim is that earth is a sphere, that is covered in more than 70% of water. That is the official claim. And therefore, bodies of water (not droplets of small volume) would need to conform to the exterior of a shape.

Again, show me where we can observe a body of water conforming to the exterior of a shape in the physical and natural world.

The natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level. This is observable and testable.

And again you have mentioned gravity. So I'll ask again, where can we observe mass attracting to mass in the physical and natural world? And where did Newton observe this originally and what experiment did he perform to prove gravity?

Again you failed to provide even 1 quantifiable proof or scientific evidence for the globe.

You are the one also making false accusations, I am not trying to pretend anyone is a thick as pig sh-t. I am merely questioning the claims of the globe using real science and the scientific method.

You also failed to provide the measurements for the globe at each mile in inches. You claimed the Pythagorean theorem was an ancient method for measuring the curvature, so provide your method and measurements.

The fucking internet should be shut down.

Why? Because people want to question claims using actual real science?

This has 235 replies. @Alpha is the fricking man. I lost a little respect for him when he said I was lying about the talking monkeys but alpha is the frickin man

So would that make you his next possible recruit? I hear it's like a pyramid scheme. The more you convert, the higher up in rank you go. I figure Alpha must be a Flat Earth Admiral by now or something. They could probably use a man with your sense of humor.

I wonder if there are many Flat Earthers among the Scientology cult (serious question). I mean, both depend heavily on being able to brainwash people. Maybe there's a

Flat Earth Cause Extended to Scientology (FECES) group out there.

I'm an individual Tito and don't align myself with any groups or organizations. Those making money of the truth are in it for the wrong reasons. They have conferences and that type of crap, charging for what should be free. I just merely question the claims of the globe using science.

Again I'm not trying to convert anyone, just providing the truth using science. I have always advised others to do their own research and decide for themselves.

I do believe in a creator, but it is only a belief, because I have no empirical evidence to prove that belief. See the difference?

Where as the earth is demonstrably level.

So we have over 200 replies in this thread and no one has provided anything quantifiable for the globe, or anything scientific evidence for it. So where I can provide scientific proof that destroy the claims of the globe, all I have received are assertions and assumptions. Nothing based on science. So who is really brainwashed here?

No measurable curvature.

No scientific evidence that a body of water can conform to the exterior of a shape, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence that a gas can be created without a container, or where we can observe this occurrence in the natural world?

No scientific evidence of the motion of the earth?

No scientific evidence of mass attracting to mass in the natural world?

But, but, but I saw pictures, I've seen it on TV.

Come on, they say they have known the earth was a globe for over 2 thousand years, it should be easy to provide something quantifiable to prove the globe.

Fuck off mate. Just fuck off out of it. You're talking to an actual rocket scientist. That's what I'm actually qualified to do anyway. None of these videos are in any way based on science. They're all made by a load of grifters who make money making bullshit videos to fool fucking morons on youtube. The internet ought to be fucking shut down.

Another good reason to shut it down:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/1...itions-arizona

Great, then you should be able to explain to us where we can observe gas pressure being created without a container in the physical and natural world.

If you didn't have gas-pressure-that's-not-in-a-container acting on you right now you'd expand and explode.

If the earth is flat how come it isn't daylight/nighttime at the same time everywhere on the disc? How do GPS systems work?

Kirk you are late to the party these questions have been asked fifty times why aren’t you watching your favorite liar testify about trump. Cohen is good if u need a cab as well