Should transgenered people be allowed to box?

[Gandalf]

Tito why did you not posts quotes from the three female boxers who were quite happy to fight a trans opponent? The ones who had no problem with it and the ones who said with all the steroids around what's the difference? Why did you not post the quote from the female boxer who said bring it on and that the question was just another excuse to portray women as weak?

What is hilarious is how you moan about people going with the flow as though you are making some brave stand, but you and a lot of others here are actually insisting on imposing your own weird version of some kind of political correctness.

You want to decide for other adults. You and Miles have just proven how sexist you both are in both wanting to tell women what they can do. What they are allowed to do. Why can't each boxer decide for themselves?

Like most old fashioned weak men you and Miles etc are seemingly threatened by people choosing to not conform to the very narrow stereotypes you want to impose on them. Do you want to be seen like a nanny state government, brainwashed religious loon or some agenda driven politicaly correct zealot? Because that is what you guys sound like. Let people decide for themselves.

I am not telling women what to do. I am just suggesting that all things being equal that a man will batter a woman. Women are weaker than men generally speaking. Just a fact. It is why we do not hit women. Chopping off a willy and adding a few hormones is not going to reduce height by several inches.

[Beanz]

Tito why did you not posts quotes from the three female boxers who were quite happy to fight a trans opponent? The ones who had no problem with it and the ones who said with all the steroids around what's the difference? Why did you not post the quote from the female boxer who said bring it on and that the question was just another excuse to portray women as weak?

What is hilarious is how you moan about people going with the flow as though you are making some brave stand, but you and a lot of others here are actually insisting on imposing your own weird version of some kind of political correctness.

You want to decide for other adults. You and Miles have just proven how sexist you both are in both wanting to tell women what they can do. What they are allowed to do. Why can't each boxer decide for themselves?

Like most old fashioned weak men you and Miles etc are seemingly threatened by people choosing to not conform to the very narrow stereotypes you want to impose on them. Do you want to be seen like a nanny state government, brainwashed religious loon or some agenda driven politicaly correct zealot? Because that is what you guys sound like. Let people decide for themselves.

I am not telling women what to do. I am just suggesting that all things being equal that a man will batter a woman. Women are weaker than men generally speaking. Just a fact. It is why we do not hit women. Chopping off a willy and adding a few hormones is not going to reduce height by several inches.

Actually that is exactly what you are doing. Nobody is talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Tito and his five imaginary IFS are just something he has to invent, to pretend he has anything approaching a reasonable argument.

The thread title explicitly asks whether transgendered people should be ALLOWED to box.

Of the actual female boxers asked, three were quite happy to box them. They apparently did not count because as men you both think you should be able to decide for them. If not, why are their thoughts excluded?

So here you and Tito are telling those women who they can box. Nobody else has suggested anywhere that boxers, female or male should be forced to fight anyone. In fact I quite explicitly stated again and again all through the thread as adults they should be able to decide who to box themselves.All this mandatory stuff is hypothetical nonsense like the crap you have to make up to not even give women the right to think and decide for themselves.

Plenty of women smaller than you, could beat the living shite out of you. That is a fact however superior your untrained, inexperienced skinny/fat body may feel. it is all in your head.

A fight against a pro female boxer at almost any weight would be ...beyond you.

[TitoFan]

Actually that is exactly what you are doing. Nobody is talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Tito and his five imaginary IFS are just something he has to invent, to pretend he has anything approaching a reasonable argument.

The thread title explicitly asks whether transgendered people should be ALLOWED to box.

Of the actual female boxers asked, three were quite happy to box them. They apparently did not count because as men you both think you should be able to decide for them. If not, why are their thoughts excluded?

So here you and Tito are telling those women who they can box. Nobody else has suggested anywhere that boxers, female or male should be forced to fight anyone. In fact I quite explicitly stated again and again all through the thread as adults they should be able to decide who to box themselves.All this mandatory stuff is hypothetical nonsense like the crap you have to make up to not even give women the right to think and decide for themselves.

Plenty of women smaller than you, could beat the living shite out of you. That is a fact however superior your untrained, inexperienced skinny/fat body may feel. it is all in your head.

A fight against a pro female boxer at almost any weight would be ...beyond you.

You can't POSSIBLY be this stupid. I'll take that back.


Beanz, for the last fucking time..... who gives a shit WHAT the thread title says? Someone else (not me) expressed his opinion that he's ok with transgender males fighting men, but not transgender women fighting women. Where's your goddamn outrage at him?? No. Like the coward you are, you pick your battles. You pick WHO you fight with because you know "they've" got your back just in case. You fight with me, you know there's someone itching to jump into the fray. You are such a conniving little bitch.

You know why Lyle doesn't post here anymore? Because of YOU, you slimy twat. So don't give us your used car salesman song and dance about not having problems with Lyle. Like the cowardly bitch you are, you conveniently hide behind the trousers of whoever isn't fighting with you at the moment, just so you'll have someone on your side. For being old enough to be a grandfather, you sure are pathetic.

Take all your "hypothetical" arguments and shove them right up your transgender-loving ass. Is that what you were waiting for? Anger from me? Well..... I'm happy to oblige you. You, and any other ignorant asshole who beats his chest about how he's such a "live and let live" kind of guy. All that is is an excuse to not have a stance about anything. That is the worse kind of person on this Earth. Don't have an opinion.... just exist to criticize the stance of others.

I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but obviously I do.

Once you open a door in athletics, it's open. And it becomes commonplace.

You want to ignore those women boxers who would be afraid to face a man transgender woman. So in essence you are the worst type of woman abuser. You may not do it yourself, but you turn a blinking eye somewhere else. THEN, you dress it up as tolerance, in your hypocritical, flowery speech way. When in reality you're nothing but a scumbag who supports men beating up on women, thinly veiled as supporting transgenderism in sports.

I knew you were an asshole. I just didn't know you were THIS much of an asshole.

[TitoFan]

I'll now proceed to shoot down your (and your cronies) arguments.

Argument 1. That's not what the thread title is about. (Weak. A sign of not having a real argument. If that's all you can muster, you must know you're wrong right off the bat. Show me where Saddo rules state that thread titles cannot be expanded upon in a discussion. I rest my case.)

Argument 2. Transgenders are not being forced on anybody. (Right. In your fantasy world, once that door is opened and transgenders are allowed to fight women, women boxers will ALL feel comfortable turning down fights with transgenders if they want to, without fear of being stripped of titles, ridiculed or pressured by their peers, or just plain looking cowardly. There's absolutely ZERO chance that an up-and-coming young woman boxer, who's on the verge of deciding whether to go pro, might change her mind for fear of eventually facing a man-turned-woman in the ring.)

Argument 3. Those of us on this side are trying to tell others what to do. (There's a saying. No one is blinder than he who will not see. You KNOW that's not true, but you twist and bend the narrative to fit your obscure, ridiculous agenda. The fact you think you can get away with it is an affront to most people's intelligence in this forum.)



Alpha used to argue that the Earth is flat. That is basically harmless and doesn't hurt anybody. (Oh and by the way, I'm fully expecting you to chime in about my arguments with Alpha... all the while pretending YOU never did. Because that's the type of slime bag you are.) But THIS argument...... this argument could eventually cost somebody their lives or their livelihoods.

Meanwhile, you comically and tragically dress it up as YOU'RE the one who's defending women.

Do you fucking listen to yourself??!!?? Of course you don't. You're a Class A idiot.

[Gandalf]

Tito why did you not posts quotes from the three female boxers who were quite happy to fight a trans opponent? The ones who had no problem with it and the ones who said with all the steroids around what's the difference? Why did you not post the quote from the female boxer who said bring it on and that the question was just another excuse to portray women as weak?

What is hilarious is how you moan about people going with the flow as though you are making some brave stand, but you and a lot of others here are actually insisting on imposing your own weird version of some kind of political correctness.

You want to decide for other adults. You and Miles have just proven how sexist you both are in both wanting to tell women what they can do. What they are allowed to do. Why can't each boxer decide for themselves?

Like most old fashioned weak men you and Miles etc are seemingly threatened by people choosing to not conform to the very narrow stereotypes you want to impose on them. Do you want to be seen like a nanny state government, brainwashed religious loon or some agenda driven politicaly correct zealot? Because that is what you guys sound like. Let people decide for themselves.

I am not telling women what to do. I am just suggesting that all things being equal that a man will batter a woman. Women are weaker than men generally speaking. Just a fact. It is why we do not hit women. Chopping off a willy and adding a few hormones is not going to reduce height by several inches.

Actually that is exactly what you are doing. Nobody is talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Tito and his five imaginary IFS are just something he has to invent, to pretend he has anything approaching a reasonable argument.

The thread title explicitly asks whether transgendered people should be ALLOWED to box.

Of the actual female boxers asked, three were quite happy to box them. They apparently did not count because as men you both think you should be able to decide for them. If not, why are their thoughts excluded?

So here you and Tito are telling those women who they can box. Nobody else has suggested anywhere that boxers, female or male should be forced to fight anyone. In fact I quite explicitly stated again and again all through the thread as adults they should be able to decide who to box themselves.All this mandatory stuff is hypothetical nonsense like the crap you have to make up to not even give women the right to think and decide for themselves.

Plenty of women smaller than you, could beat the living shite out of you. That is a fact however superior your untrained, inexperienced skinny/fat body may feel. it is all in your head.

A fight against a pro female boxer at almost any weight would be ...beyond you.

You are just making things up, Lawrence. I said that in most cases the man would beat the shit out of the woman. Cut off Manny's tackle, pump him full of hormones and see what happens. I am not saying a woman cannot make her own decision, I am saying she would would most likely get beaten up. This is why men do not hit women. Stop making things up.

I could probably beat the living shite out of you too and you are dickless wonder, so all is fair in your world.

[TitoFan]

[Spicoli]

[TitoFan]

That might even be a 10-8 round for the blue.

[Gandalf]

Tito why did you not posts quotes from the three female boxers who were quite happy to fight a trans opponent? The ones who had no problem with it and the ones who said with all the steroids around what's the difference? Why did you not post the quote from the female boxer who said bring it on and that the question was just another excuse to portray women as weak?

What is hilarious is how you moan about people going with the flow as though you are making some brave stand, but you and a lot of others here are actually insisting on imposing your own weird version of some kind of political correctness.

You want to decide for other adults. You and Miles have just proven how sexist you both are in both wanting to tell women what they can do. What they are allowed to do. Why can't each boxer decide for themselves?

Like most old fashioned weak men you and Miles etc are seemingly threatened by people choosing to not conform to the very narrow stereotypes you want to impose on them. Do you want to be seen like a nanny state government, brainwashed religious loon or some agenda driven politicaly correct zealot? Because that is what you guys sound like. Let people decide for themselves.

I am not telling women what to do. I am just suggesting that all things being equal that a man will batter a woman. Women are weaker than men generally speaking. Just a fact. It is why we do not hit women. Chopping off a willy and adding a few hormones is not going to reduce height by several inches.

Actually that is exactly what you are doing. Nobody is talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Tito and his five imaginary IFS are just something he has to invent, to pretend he has anything approaching a reasonable argument.

The thread title explicitly asks whether transgendered people should be ALLOWED to box.

Of the actual female boxers asked, three were quite happy to box them. They apparently did not count because as men you both think you should be able to decide for them. If not, why are their thoughts excluded?

So here you and Tito are telling those women who they can box. Nobody else has suggested anywhere that boxers, female or male should be forced to fight anyone. In fact I quite explicitly stated again and again all through the thread as adults they should be able to decide who to box themselves.All this mandatory stuff is hypothetical nonsense like the crap you have to make up to not even give women the right to think and decide for themselves.

Plenty of women smaller than you, could beat the living shite out of you. That is a fact however superior your untrained, inexperienced skinny/fat body may feel. it is all in your head.

A fight against a pro female boxer at almost any weight would be ...beyond you.

You are just making things up, Lawrence. I said that in most cases the man would beat the shit out of the woman. Cut off Manny's tackle, pump him full of hormones and see what happens. I am not saying a woman cannot make her own decision, I am saying she would would most likely get beaten up. This is why men do not hit women. Stop making things up.

I could probably beat the living shite out of you too and you are dickless wonder, so all is fair in your world.

Also, why would I have to face professional women? Surely as a novice with a recent chop and hormone stimulus, I should be fighting ordinary women on the street. I am quite sure that most women would turn down the offer of a duel with a drag queen incarnation of Paul Williams saying "Sorry luv, but I am watching Coronation Street in a bit". It would be like suggesting I go in with professional men in my current penis enhanced condition. Of course I would have a hard time as I am not a boxer. But the average bloke in the street around my weight? It is a more even contest. Would win some and lose others. It all depends on my camp, my campness, and how well Walrus guides me with his military routines and Brock with his psychological game. My own natural intelligence is also key. I have that chess player intelligence like Wlad and I am not afraid to make it ugly to get my way. Following the rules of boxing one is going to have to close the gap and get me. I challenge you to be a real Jew and cut it off, Beanz. You can't go around fighting the Gentiles with that thing flopping around like an elephant trunk lost in the safari. Once you deal with the elephant in the room we shall talk.

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