Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia

[Kirkland Laing]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

Just... ya know... you're a funny guy and all. ()

(Robert Garcia being knowledgeable? He took the payday like he always does)

It's his brother man. I know he likes his money but come on, if there's going to be once in his life he's going to be brutally honest it should have been for this fight.

[TitoFan]

Looking back through the thread, it was interesting to see the shift in people's opinion before the fight. Around page 5 of the thread is where people started saying hey you know what? Mikey might just beat Spence.

Turns out the initial reaction when the fight was announced was the correct one. Spence was just too much for Mikey.

I hope Mikey follows through on what he said after the fight and goes back down. He's got no business at welter.

[Fenster]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

Just... ya know... you're a funny guy and all. ()

(Robert Garcia being knowledgeable? He took the payday like he always does)

It's his brother man. I know he likes his money but come on, if there's going to be once in his life he's going to be brutally honest it should have been for this fight.

I was actually pleading with him around the 10th - come on man, it's your brother, do the right thing or you're going to cost me 250 quid. Bastard.

[Dark Lord Al]

Strange performance from Mikey , I expected him to at lest give it a go as he fell behind.

[Beanz]

Spence was masterful. He never allowed Garcia to fight. He had a plan and he executed it with spite. Easy to get high on boxers before truly making that mark, but the guy is a throwback. To fight like that at this point in his career is remarkable. It has nothing to do with Garcia being bad on the night, or it being an off night, he was just outclassed in every department. The little micro movements that Spence makes even when going forward makes him a lot harder to nail flush than people have been claiming, and he mixes it up, not just through the dips and highs of the whole 12 rounds, but within single rounds. He can change his speed at will and will dictate where the action will take place on his terms.

Big waste to fight Manny. He destroys Manny at this stage. Not knocking Mannys willingness to fight him, but is a sad indictment on the other guys who should be challenging Spence that it is even being talked about.

[Master]

Sounds like it was JMM v Floyd again. Just too big, better and a weight too far for Garcia.

[smashup]

The reach advantage was used to perfection and those long straight jabs & crosses were what won Spence the fight.
You could tell from the off that Garcia had no way in and was gonna be eating them all night.

[ykdadamaja]

Too big, too strong. Mikey is a helluva strong fighter too.

[Ron Swanson]

Spence was masterful. He never allowed Garcia to fight. He had a plan and he executed it with spite. Easy to get high on boxers before truly making that mark, but the guy is a throwback. To fight like that at this point in his career is remarkable. It has nothing to do with Garcia being bad on the night, or it being an off night, he was just outclassed in every department. The little micro movements that Spence makes even when going forward makes him a lot harder to nail flush than people have been claiming, and he mixes it up, not just through the dips and highs of the whole 12 rounds, but within single rounds. He can change his speed at will and will dictate where the action will take place on his terms.

Big waste to fight Manny. He destroys Manny at this stage. Not knocking Mannys willingness to fight him, but is a sad indictment on the other guys who should be challenging Spence that it is even being talked about.

Yup, you could see the plan. Mikey wanted to think and catch Spence with something big and Spence was going to allow no time to think. I’m more certain than ever of who Spence is.

Funny to watch people suddenly decide on a Garcia/Loma fight off this. Making drastic reactions off every fight without consideration of the alternative “how would Pedraza do against Mikey?”, KO victory by Mikey. “How would Loma do against Spence?” KO victory by Spence. Mikey has said for a while how to beat Loma and he’s right. Can he do it? I don’t know, Loma is crazy good. It’s one thing to know how to do something and something else entirely to do it. But this fight tells us nothing about Garcia/Loma

[p4pking]

I don’t disagree with the crux of you two, but surely the fight increases lomas chances all around? Mikey putting on the weight and taking a beating can only hurt him going back down. He spoke well and seemed completely fine in the post fight stuff and all though, and looked/fought like he just didn’t cut weight rather than moved up, so i see the case.

[Ron Swanson]

I don’t disagree with the crux of you two, but surely the fight increases lomas chances all around? Mikey putting on the weight and taking a beating can only hurt him going back down. He spoke well and seemed completely fine in the post fight stuff and all though, and looked/fought like he just didn’t cut weight rather than moved up, so i see the case.

Surely taking a beating never helps and “accepting defeat” makes accepting defeat easier the next time. I only mean directly nothing can be taken from this. Mikey couldn’t get Spence’s respect to slow him down enough to get his own stuff going. With Mikey’s power at 135 Loma would have to respect the power. The question is the same as always between them. Can Mikey turn with Loma and punch, if you can the matrix movement goes out the window like it did against Pedraza. It looks great against people that lack that talent but it simply doesn’t work against people that have talented feet of their own. Does Mikey turn with Loma and shoot the right? If so it turns into a heads up boxing match. Then it is Mikey’s power vs Loma boxing straight up. Very interesting.

I look at it as I look at GGG vs Brook. That destruction didn’t mean anything about how good Brook was at 147 because Brook didn’t have fight altering power at 160. It’s like Rigo at 130, not really Rigo. Etcetera

[TitoFan]

Strange performance from Mikey , I expected him to at lest give it a go as he fell behind.

I thought Mikey gave it all he had. Several times he tried to press the action and got smoked for his troubles. Had he continued to insist, he would've gotten knocked out.

Spence was pounding that body mercilessly all night.