Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
Numbers? Really?

1.Immigration.
This is an unavoidable result of a more connected world. Its what happens to feed capitalisms insatiable greed for profits.

Profits over people.

War for profits at the expense of people creates immigrants.

NON EU immigration is already higher than EU immigration and will continue to grow after Brexit.

So the central tennet of the leave campaigns sermon is a lie. Immigration will rise and from further away. You and the peculiar Europhobic people like Bannon and Trump goading you on will actually increase non white, often Muslim, culturally incompatible immigration. You will tie the hands of white Christian and atheist workers in order to inadvertently create the invasion you dream/fear.
Excessive immigration is a political choice and goes against the desires of the general population. It is not unavoidable, it is simply that the two party tyranny refuses to alter course and control it. When is enough enough for you? You already know that the financial cost of immigration is heavy as documented by Murray. People were never asked and the consequence is a drain on the economy or else the loss of jobs that locals can be doing.

Profits over people? It is just 3 words. You will need to construct a better argument. I do not follow.

Are you suggesting that 4.2 million people came from Europe as the result of war or more truthfully because their countries are poor and they could profit more handsomely from the UK? Then there are those from beyond Europe who indeed cost money.

People from Pakistan or India have little to do with war. Even those that are from war zones are not the responsibility of the British people who were always against the wars.

Non EU migration will only rise under a Labour/Tory monopoly. Things can change very quickly when you make enough people angry. Labour and Tory are both very unpopular right now and people seem to want an end to them both. Both are against the will of the people. That does not get away from the fact that people want an end to immigration. The fact that Labour and Tory will betray them does not avoid that fact.

Nice to tie me in with Bannon and Trump when all I argue is for democracy and controlled borders. This is why I would endorse Ukip or For Britain rather than ever consider the two parties that have ruined a great country.

There is only ever a need for moderate incremental immigration on a temporary visa based system for specific jobs. Anything more is unreasonable and against the wishes of the populace.