Our Earths Biodiversity Crisis

[Fenster]

I am not even on an anti-children rant there, more suggesting that a couple of children is kind of ordinary and that one is somewhat ideal and for anyone who wants a good nights sleep just to not bother at all. I know plenty of people with kids and the most is two, but typically one. Smarter people do tend to have less children, but of course that is not always true. I mean, what impact is this family below going to have? And if even the next generation have 2 kids each next, then it just becomes absurd. If they had only had 2 kids then those 2 had 2 kids it is somewhat sustainable. In many parts of the world the birth rates are absurd and it all comes at a cost.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/770575...baby-last-one/

6000 kids die everyday from a lack of clean water and millions and millions are abandoned/homeless all over the world.

[Freedom]

6000 kids die everyday from a lack of clean water and millions and millions are abandoned/homeless all over the world.

Because of overpopulation and lack of family planning.

And it's going to get a lot worse during the next decade. If there ever are another two years with drought like in 1931 and 1932 (dust bowl), so the USA and Canada with failed crops could not export food, there would be mass starvation in many countries.

Everybody wants to leave those countries, and come to Europe and America. But where does it end?

[Gandalf]

I am not even on an anti-children rant there, more suggesting that a couple of children is kind of ordinary and that one is somewhat ideal and for anyone who wants a good nights sleep just to not bother at all. I know plenty of people with kids and the most is two, but typically one. Smarter people do tend to have less children, but of course that is not always true. I mean, what impact is this family below going to have? And if even the next generation have 2 kids each next, then it just becomes absurd. If they had only had 2 kids then those 2 had 2 kids it is somewhat sustainable. In many parts of the world the birth rates are absurd and it all comes at a cost.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/770575...baby-last-one/

6000 kids die everyday from a lack of clean water and millions and millions are abandoned/homeless all over the world.

And that is clearly not a good thing. If people would just think a little more, then things could be better, but as seen with demographic trends it is going to be very problematic this century and that is not all down to climate change. That is due to population expansionism. Those least able to raise children are having the most children.

[Fenster]

These are privileged peoples problems, my point about the kids is we can't even really comprehend the lives of genuine uneducated destitute people. With all "our" wealth, education and science the vast majority still believe in supernatural stuff controlling their lives. We fight and argue about hurting each others feelings.

I was just listening to African women thanking Cherie Blair for highlighting the rape they suffered in Africa, in the space of 30 minutes about a dozen women thought being raped by their dad, uncle, etc was the norm until they came to this country. Utterly crazy world.

(not saying it shouldn't be changed just that it's impossible)

[Gandalf]

Overpopulation is a problem for everyone. It means too many people in poor countries and then the West allowing them in. It wouldn't be a privileged persons problem if we had enforced borders.

[Fenster]

Overpopulation is a problem for everyone. It means too many people in poor countries and then the West allowing them in. It wouldn't be a privileged persons problem if we had enforced borders.

Wouldn't it make more sense - be easier - to wipe them all out? Although i'm not sure how it impacts you, at nearly 40 with no offspring why do you care? Unfortunately you'll be long gone before ever witnessing/experiencing your imagined utopia.

[Gandalf]

Overpopulation is a problem for everyone. It means too many people in poor countries and then the West allowing them in. It wouldn't be a privileged persons problem if we had enforced borders.

Wouldn't it make more sense - be easier - to wipe them all out? Although i'm not sure how it impacts you, at nearly 40 with no offspring why do you care? Unfortunately you'll be long gone before ever witnessing/experiencing your imagined utopia.

I assume you have no children too, do you think it would make sense to just wipe them all out?

I guess it's not really part of my nature to want mass genocide. I would prefer to be reasonable and encourage people to be sensible. If people in other countries want to have 6 children each, that is their choice, but they should deal with the consequences there. All I suggest is that there is a more intelligent way to conduct oneself.

Quite true that none of it really has any effect on me, but maybe it suggests that I intrinsically just want a better future for the earth that we live on and that we hopefully quite like and enjoy. I don't see the point in spoiling it because people cannot control themselves.

[Fenster]

Overpopulation is a problem for everyone. It means too many people in poor countries and then the West allowing them in. It wouldn't be a privileged persons problem if we had enforced borders.

Wouldn't it make more sense - be easier - to wipe them all out? Although i'm not sure how it impacts you, at nearly 40 with no offspring why do you care? Unfortunately you'll be long gone before ever witnessing/experiencing your imagined utopia.

I assume you have no children too, do you think it would make sense to just wipe them all out?

I guess it's not really part of my nature to want mass genocide. I would prefer to be reasonable and encourage people to be sensible. If people in other countries want to have 6 children each, that is their choice, but they should deal with the consequences there. All I suggest is that there is a more intelligent way to conduct oneself.

Quite true that none of it really has any effect on me, but maybe it suggests that I intrinsically just want a better future for the earth that we live on and that we hopefully quite like and enjoy. I don't see the point in spoiling it because people cannot control themselves.

Just saying it would be more simple than educating/stopping them with all the silly PC rules and regulations.

Intrinsically I suppose you're right, but none of it will effect us either way, whether or not the flag of sharia rustles over Buckingham palace one day won't have any bearing on us nor a Rhino or dog going extinct.