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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    I have been confused for a while regarding Beanz stance on lots of subjects here, over the past 7 years or so ive had messages that contradict themselves and what is said in threads.
    He unconditionally defends open door policy (anyone who doesnt agreed is a right wing Nazi in his opinion), he takes the time to march in London protesting about cuts in benefits ? very strange indeed if the cuts don't affect you personally, why would anyone take time of work to do that ?
    Now he claims to be a successful self employed businessman, looking back at messages that is questionable , however would any successful businessman need to sell their house to go on a holiday which would cost around 10 -15 grand ?
    Or does the contradiction explain why a person would march in London protesting about benefit cuts.

    Its is very easy to claim to do things or say something to prop up your argument here, but if you are going to tell porkies you need to be consistent and remember what you have said previously.

    Anyone can win an argument by twisting their point of view to suit, however throwing the word keyboard warrior at people like Miles is really the pot calling the kettle black.
    Everyone here has their own mind and opinion but when you are constantly telling people they are wrong it gets pretty tiresome.

    I alway say it how it is here, on the subjects of cuisine, travel, or subject about our failing system.
    For example of his claims - Robinson campaining in the north west which as you know is my home, I personally dont think Robinson is a great role model however Beanz says NOBODY IN THE NORTHWEST WANTS HIM !
    Actually there are many people of all ages even people 60's-70's not just younger who actually want change and support Robinson, this is my point he tells us things based on what how the fuck does he know about people of the NW ?
    Fact is he doesnt, and if he has read it in the press then it isnt a real reperesentaion of the REAL people who live there. Its called keeping a lid on things by the media and powers that be, Bolton has taken in more Migrants than any other town in the UK that is a fact and the locals are sick of it and its totally to do with the local Labour council, hence why they have lost control in the local elections.

    Another example if someone quotes from the press it is absolutely wrong , if Beanz quotes from the press it is absolutely 100% the truth.
    Double standards ?

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    No wonder you have to gossip like a girl behind people's backs when you live in such a bubble. Just be a man Al and ask me to my face.

    I don't have to justify my life to you. I am self employed but that does not mean I have 10 grand to throw around.

    I have never once unconditionally defended an open door policy and neither do I call anyone who disagrees with me a right wing nazi. You have to resort to that kind of bullshit because you like throwing your weight around but it's not true.

    My Mrs is disabled and isn't about to be miraculously cured so now the kids have left home we are going to sell up and downsize to travel a bit before it becomes impossible for her. I have a lot of health issues but I do not claim disability benefits however many times you pm people telling them I do. I don't want a blue Peter badge or medal just an acknowledgement that of course many disabled people work without stealing your precious pennies.

    If course I don't speak for you Region and have never claimed to but my mated lived in Warrington and my Mrs brother lived in Bolton for a couple years so I am not totally clueless. Most people will not vote for Robinson not because they are lefties but because they are decent English people.

    Just because you would never march or protest to support others I would not be boasting about it mate. I was so proud of my Mrs walking that entire march when she could and don't regret for a moment taking one day off working to show solidarity with thousands of people, including veterans, and the families of those killed by the austerity measures you defend.
    I'm tired of trying to pick out the parts that are fact and what is fabrication, so lets leave it at that.




    The facts are in my post and the fabrication is in yours.

    Hope this helps.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    I have been confused for a while regarding Beanz stance on lots of subjects here, over the past 7 years or so ive had messages that contradict themselves and what is said in threads.
    He unconditionally defends open door policy (anyone who doesnt agreed is a right wing Nazi in his opinion), he takes the time to march in London protesting about cuts in benefits ? very strange indeed if the cuts don't affect you personally, why would anyone take time of work to do that ?
    Now he claims to be a successful self employed businessman, looking back at messages that is questionable , however would any successful businessman need to sell their house to go on a holiday which would cost around 10 -15 grand ?
    Or does the contradiction explain why a person would march in London protesting about benefit cuts.

    Its is very easy to claim to do things or say something to prop up your argument here, but if you are going to tell porkies you need to be consistent and remember what you have said previously.

    Anyone can win an argument by twisting their point of view to suit, however throwing the word keyboard warrior at people like Miles is really the pot calling the kettle black.
    Everyone here has their own mind and opinion but when you are constantly telling people they are wrong it gets pretty tiresome.

    I alway say it how it is here, on the subjects of cuisine, travel, or subject about our failing system.
    For example of his claims - Robinson campaining in the north west which as you know is my home, I personally dont think Robinson is a great role model however Beanz says NOBODY IN THE NORTHWEST WANTS HIM !
    Actually there are many people of all ages even people 60's-70's not just younger who actually want change and support Robinson, this is my point he tells us things based on what how the fuck does he know about people of the NW ?
    Fact is he doesnt, and if he has read it in the press then it isnt a real reperesentaion of the REAL people who live there. Its called keeping a lid on things by the media and powers that be, Bolton has taken in more Migrants than any other town in the UK that is a fact and the locals are sick of it and its totally to do with the local Labour council, hence why they have lost control in the local elections.

    Another example if someone quotes from the press it is absolutely wrong , if Beanz quotes from the press it is absolutely 100% the truth.
    Double standards ?

    Answers on a post card.



    No wonder you have to gossip like a girl behind people's backs when you live in such a bubble. Just be a man Al and ask me to my face.

    I don't have to justify my life to you. I am self employed but that does not mean I have 10 grand to throw around.

    I have never once unconditionally defended an open door policy and neither do I call anyone who disagrees with me a right wing nazi. You have to resort to that kind of bullshit because you like throwing your weight around but it's not true.

    My Mrs is disabled and isn't about to be miraculously cured so now the kids have left home we are going to sell up and downsize to travel a bit before it becomes impossible for her. I have a lot of health issues but I do not claim disability benefits however many times you pm people telling them I do. I don't want a blue Peter badge or medal just an acknowledgement that of course many disabled people work without stealing your precious pennies.

    If course I don't speak for you Region and have never claimed to but my mated lived in Warrington and my Mrs brother lived in Bolton for a couple years so I am not totally clueless. Most people will not vote for Robinson not because they are lefties but because they are decent English people.

    Just because you would never march or protest to support others I would not be boasting about it mate. I was so proud of my Mrs walking that entire march when she could and don't regret for a moment taking one day off working to show solidarity with thousands of people, including veterans, and the families of those killed by the austerity measures you defend.
    I'm tired of trying to pick out the parts that are fact and what is fabrication, so lets leave it at that.




    The facts are in my post and the fabrication is in yours.

    Hope this helps.
    I truly believe you are a liar , to many inconsistences with you story.
    Im sure many here will see that also.
    You are full of shit.

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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    'too' many.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    You are a bigot Al. That's why you can't belive people not like you can't be decent hard working Englishmen. I don't give a shit what you believe, tooth fairy, Allah, whatever, live your own life.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    'too' many.

    Excellent spot, the first fact you stated in ages.

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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    'too' many.

    Excellent spot, the first fact you stated in ages.
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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    'too' many.

    Excellent spot, the first fact you stated in ages.
    Thanks my pleasure I am sure you would have a good laugh at my building skills... too.
    Nope I would get you an apprenticeship.

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    Default Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

    Tommy Robinson's offer of MEP salary rejected by charities

    Tommy Robinson’s pledge to donate his hypothetical European parliament salary to child victims of sexual grooming has been criticised as “an insult to survivors of abuse” by women’s groups who said he was “no ally for the children he claims to stand up for”.

    More than 40 women and charities including the End Violence Against Women and Girls Coalition declared in a letter to voters and community leaders in the north-west that they would not accept money from the English Defence League founder, criticising Robinson for “factually incorrect messages about grooming”.

    Robinson – whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – frequently singles out Muslims as being behind grooming gangs and has been accused of selectively publicising certain child sex abuse cases to promote a wider anti-Islam agenda.

    The coalition of women’s groups said Robinson exploited the pain suffered by victims in a self-serving attempt to fuel racial hatred.

    “We, as organisations and individuals fighting tirelessly against the abuse of women and girls, as survivors of abuse and their families, and as people who care about our communities, do not want your money, Tommy,” the letter read.

    “Those who have suffered sexual and physical abuse were failed by those who should have protected them. But Tommy Robinson is no ally for the children he claims to stand up for. Tommy doesn’t care about the rights of women and girls – he is exploiting the pain of survivors and their families to fuel racist hate for his own gain.”

    It added: “Tommy Robinson’s factually incorrect messages about grooming, and his attempt to portray himself as a champion of the cause, are an insult to survivors of abuse.

    “They are also a profound insult to the women who have spent their whole lives building support services for survivors and working to ensure some cases finally got to court. Where were you during that work Tommy Robinson?”

    Signatories also included author and Women for Refugee Women founder Natasha Walter, Rape Crisis Surrey and Sussex, Rape Crisis South London, the Women’s Centre Cornwall and Gurpreet Virdee, a director at the Women and Girls Network.

    Announcing the commitment two weeks ago in a YouTube video as part of his campaign to become an independent MEP in the north-west, Robinson criticised “arrogant” politicians on a “gravy train with no end in sight” as he announced he would not keep earnings from being an MEP, if he were elected.

    “They need to think of the victims, not of their own politicisation of the situation, that money is to go to any victims of sexual exploitation, including Muslims,” Robinson said of the letter’s signatories.

    “They are in no position to turn down money, they shouldn’t be. They should be in the position to help victims and if that money helps victims, which it does, gets them off the waiting list for counselling, then they are playing with the victims, not me.”

    Matthew McGregor, from anti-racism campaigners Hope Not Hate, said: “This is one of Tommy Robinson’s most cynical stunts. Abuse survivors don’t need someone whose main interest is in funding his already lavish lifestyle and spreading hatred.”

    In the weeks since launching his campaign for the 23 May election to become an MEP on a monthly salary of about £7,500 before tax, Robinson has twice been struck by milkshakes and police are investigating a number of alleged assaults that occurred during his recent visit to Warrington.

    The far-right activist has been funded by a number of rightwing organisations around the world and claims to have raised several hundred thousand pounds via online donations.

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