Genuine Question: Why do people stay poor?

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

5. This is where I think broken families and a lack of role models is the biggest issue and that is on parents to display RESPONSIBILITY towards those they bring into the world.

Once again. Barack Obama did not have kids out of wedlock. He was a good father. That did not stop the white supremacists from coming after him

Illegitimacy has been rising across the West. In France and Sweden, for example, most children are no longer born to married women. That is a sea change in Western society that goes way beyond Black America.



The birth rate among unmarried Black women has been dropping since the early 90's – meaning that they are acting more responsibly, not less. The reason the illegitimacy rate goes up is because the birth rate among married Black women has been dropping even faster, something that has been going on since the 1950s.



Also an illegitimate birth tells you nothing about whether the mother lives with the father or gets married later, just as a legitimate birth tells you nothing about divorce, separation or incarceration.

8. No, in the UK no race is more advantaged than any other race legally, but personal decisions are another matter and that is where inequality comes from. It is one of the most racially tolerant places in the

Does racism exist ? Because if you are saying that "no race is more advantaged than any other race" then your saying that racism does not exist. Right ? Because the whole point of white supremacy is to give white a head start.

9. I am naturally smart, so obviously I have no issues passing courses, interviews and things of this nature.

"I'm naturally smart" Get over yourself (lol)

Because when you sought admission to a university, applied for a job, went for an interview, almost all of the people who evaluated you for those things looked like you, they were white. They saw in you a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. You smiled. You are white. You were one of them. You were not dangerous. Even when you got angry, you were cut some slack. After all, your white. White privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white ppl have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race.

11. What is this white privilege that I have? I know a black person in the same position as me. Paid the same, treated the same. Seems pretty equal and based on ability to me.

White privilege works in 3 ways

1) Material (greater opportunity in the labor market, or greater net worth, due to a history in which whites had the ability to accumulate wealth to a greater extent than blk ppl)
2) Social (such as presumptions of competence, creditworthiness, law-abidingness, intelligence)
3) Psychological (not having to worry about triggering negative stereotypes, rarely having to feel out of place, not having to worry about racial profiling, etc.).

White privilege is the flipside of discrimination against black people.

If you are saying white privilege does not exist, then you must also say racism does not exist

There can be no down without an up

If black people are the targets of discrimination, in housing, employment, the justice system, or elsewhere, then whites, by definition, are being elevated above those black ppl.

12. I want no sympathy at all as I do not stay poor, bank each month, and have all I need. Didn't even need to sell drugs, but I guess that is because of my privilege.

Yes it is.

Pull yourself together, Dennis. We will help you get a job, give you investment advice, and get you through. Not all white men are out to get you.

Denilson is doing very ok. In fact if you knew what I do and how much money I earn..... I'd shock the pants off you.

But I also know that the white supremacist could take everything I have away from me if they wanted. So I don't get fooled by my money. I understand I live in a system of white supremacy

[Gandalf]

LOL, will respond to that salad later! But I am having a good chuckle. Do you honestly believe half of this stuff? It is like X being a supremacist. You don't seem to know me ery well. I haven't been interviewed by a white person in about 20 years. Later, Dennis. Ever wonder why I clock off at this time. No white supremacists where I am. 🙄

[TitoFan]

Denilson has hit the mother lode with you, Miles.

You make some good points, but as I've said before, the way you go about it makes you an easy target for someone like Denilson, who believes (unless it's a huge windup persona) 100% of white people are racists.

Moderate viewpoints usually make for short, boring arguments..... but extreme viewpoints are just the opposite.

I know you don't like being called racist, and I'll abstain from calling you that. But you've got some beliefs ingrained in you that could easily provide (and does) cannon fodder for not only Denilson, but someone like Beanz as well.

Beanz is ultra PC, which makes him clash with me on the transgender issue. So naturally he's going to take offense with some of your broadbrush comments.

That YouTube you posted with the Japanese pimple-faced idiot trying to ban blacks in Japan has stayed with me. That you even posted that and gave it an audience was very disappointing, as all it does is propagate negative stereotypes that do no one any good.



I try to be as clear as possible. If you say there's an overpopulation problem, I agree with you. It makes no sense to me for women to spit out dozens of babies in countries without enough food to feed those who are already born.

If you say there's a huge single mother problem which only propagates the poor, government handout dependent population..... I'll agree with that also. My only qualifier is that it cuts across racial and ethnic lines. The government is a lot to blame.

When you say some people choose to be poor, I know what you're trying to say and it's a bit coarse. But by making life choices like spitting out kids like hamsters ("let the government take care of us"), many single women choose their lifestyle.

Kids naturally struggle to escape that reality and that vicious cycle.


Governments should do a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of welfare and handout systems. EVERYWHERE. As with many other government programs, the thought and effort put into these programs is barely TOKEN and gotten out of the way as quickly as possible so these corrupt, inept legislators can move on to their next empty promise.


Anyway, Denilson will continue thinking as he does (unless it's been all a huge, giant chain-pulling exercise) until maturity sets in around his late 40's or 50's.

[Beanz]

Denilson has hit the mother lode with you, Miles.

You make some good points, but as I've said before, the way you go about it makes you an easy target for someone like Denilson, who believes (unless it's a huge windup persona) 100% of white people are racists.

Moderate viewpoints usually make for short, boring arguments..... but extreme viewpoints are just the opposite.

I know you don't like being called racist, and I'll abstain from calling you that. But you've got some beliefs ingrained in you that could easily provide (and does) cannon fodder for not only Denilson, but someone like Beanz as well.

Beanz is ultra PC, which makes him clash with me on the transgender issue. So naturally he's going to take offense with some of your broadbrush comments.

That YouTube you posted with the Japanese pimple-faced idiot trying to ban blacks in Japan has stayed with me. That you even posted that and gave it an audience was very disappointing, as all it does is propagate negative stereotypes that do no one any good.



I try to be as clear as possible. If you say there's an overpopulation problem, I agree with you. It makes no sense to me for women to spit out dozens of babies in countries without enough food to feed those who are already born.

If you say there's a huge single mother problem which only propagates the poor, government handout dependent population..... I'll agree with that also. My only qualifier is that it cuts across racial and ethnic lines. The government is a lot to blame.

When you say some people choose to be poor, I know what you're trying to say and it's a bit coarse. But by making life choices like spitting out kids like hamsters ("let the government take care of us"), many single women choose their lifestyle.

Kids naturally struggle to escape that reality and that vicious cycle.


Governments should do a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of welfare and handout systems. EVERYWHERE. As with many other government programs, the thought and effort put into these programs is barely TOKEN and gotten out of the way as quickly as possible so these corrupt, inept legislators can move on to their next empty promise.


Anyway, Denilson will continue thinking as he does (unless it's been all a huge, giant chain-pulling exercise) until maturity sets in around his late 40's or 50's.

How on earth am I ultra PC?

Don't buy into the propaganda and bullshit. The sad truth is that Gandalf is not very different from Denilson at all. He is like Denilson wedded to an idealogy that prevents hims from seeing things objectively or engaging with any kind of rationality or sophistication.

Gandalf has only ever had to worry about Gandalf so it is hardly surprising the bloke has had an empathy bypass but that does not explain his deeply held belief that anyone who is not as fortunate (in fact anyone more fortunate too) as him deserve whatever happens to them. If he was religious one could possibly understand and it would likely be a bit more balanced and nuanced.

The fact is that actually he is not so different, hence his thinking all these YouTube celebrities are his saviour.

The truth is we do not live in a perfect or fair meritocracy, even in the west. There are plenty of responsible hard working people who are poor through no fault of their own. Of course there are lazy people who could do more to change their circumstances but to suggest that is some kind of default behaviour with which you can describe all or the majority of poor people is astonishingly stupid. It is a commonly known phenomenon and you do not have to be a psychologist to understand or have seen people use it. The lazy person on welfare who will say that the family next door are terribly slothful, and the trust fund kid who will make the same accusation of laziness to some guy who may have only been unemployed for a short time, having worked for the rest of his life.

The truth is we all want to believe that we got where we are through some kind of unique blend of effort and innate qualities. The whole system we live under perpetuates that myth. You must know, more than many others though, how simplistic that kind of thinking is. Just as a natural disaster can destroy homes and businesses, with no regard to who is lazy and hard working, who is talented and motivated, and those who lack initiative and a work ethic, so can a myriad realities of life. Disability, sickness, death, accidents, mental health breakdowns, economic collapse, employers closing down, all affect not just one person but families, communities and even countries. This is nothing a teenager could fail to understand. So it is quite rational to conclude that what motivates Gandalf to declare that Black people, or anyone else choose to be poor, is an irrational ideology. An ideology that gives him some false sense of superiority and entitlement.

Sure effort, planning, application and a good dose of luck help, but where we are born, to whom we are born, and a whole lifetime of random events have just as much of an impact on how far from poverty we really are.

I don't really believe in fate or karma in a religious sense but I would not want to be in the shoes of someone tempting disaster with talk of how the majority of people in a worse off position than myself deserve to be there. That kind of thinking automatically makes you a ripe target for those selling you the lie that racism is scientific, and an apologist for a ridiculous inequality gap that praises huge corporations and individual billionaires, that profit by not only making poor people poorer, but actually stealing natural resources from them.

I am happy not to be such a cynical entitled boring bastard.

[TitoFan]

Denilson has hit the mother lode with you, Miles.

You make some good points, but as I've said before, the way you go about it makes you an easy target for someone like Denilson, who believes (unless it's a huge windup persona) 100% of white people are racists.

Moderate viewpoints usually make for short, boring arguments..... but extreme viewpoints are just the opposite.

I know you don't like being called racist, and I'll abstain from calling you that. But you've got some beliefs ingrained in you that could easily provide (and does) cannon fodder for not only Denilson, but someone like Beanz as well.

Beanz is ultra PC, which makes him clash with me on the transgender issue. So naturally he's going to take offense with some of your broadbrush comments.

That YouTube you posted with the Japanese pimple-faced idiot trying to ban blacks in Japan has stayed with me. That you even posted that and gave it an audience was very disappointing, as all it does is propagate negative stereotypes that do no one any good.



I try to be as clear as possible. If you say there's an overpopulation problem, I agree with you. It makes no sense to me for women to spit out dozens of babies in countries without enough food to feed those who are already born.

If you say there's a huge single mother problem which only propagates the poor, government handout dependent population..... I'll agree with that also. My only qualifier is that it cuts across racial and ethnic lines. The government is a lot to blame.

When you say some people choose to be poor, I know what you're trying to say and it's a bit coarse. But by making life choices like spitting out kids like hamsters ("let the government take care of us"), many single women choose their lifestyle.

Kids naturally struggle to escape that reality and that vicious cycle.


Governments should do a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of welfare and handout systems. EVERYWHERE. As with many other government programs, the thought and effort put into these programs is barely TOKEN and gotten out of the way as quickly as possible so these corrupt, inept legislators can move on to their next empty promise.


Anyway, Denilson will continue thinking as he does (unless it's been all a huge, giant chain-pulling exercise) until maturity sets in around his late 40's or 50's.

How on earth am I ultra PC?

Don't buy into the propaganda and bullshit. The sad truth is that Gandalf is not very different from Denilson at all. He is like Denilson wedded to an idealogy that prevents hims from seeing things objectively or engaging with any kind of rationality or sophistication.

Gandalf has only ever had to worry about Gandalf so it is hardly surprising the bloke has had an empathy bypass but that does not explain his deeply held belief that anyone who is not as fortunate (in fact anyone more fortunate too) as him deserve whatever happens to them. If he was religious one could possibly understand and it would likely be a bit more balanced and nuanced.

The fact is that actually he is not so different, hence his thinking all these YouTube celebrities are his saviour.

The truth is we do not live in a perfect or fair meritocracy, even in the west. There are plenty of responsible hard working people who are poor through no fault of their own. Of course there are lazy people who could do more to change their circumstances but to suggest that is some kind of default behaviour with which you can describe all or the majority of poor people is astonishingly stupid. It is a commonly known phenomenon and you do not have to be a psychologist to understand or have seen people use it. The lazy person on welfare who will say that the family next door are terribly slothful, and the trust fund kid who will make the same accusation of laziness to some guy who may have only been unemployed for a short time, having worked for the rest of his life.

The truth is we all want to believe that we got where we are through some kind of unique blend of effort and innate qualities. The whole system we live under perpetuates that myth. You must know, more than many others though, how simplistic that kind of thinking is. Just as a natural disaster can destroy homes and businesses, with no regard to who is lazy and hard working, who is talented and motivated, and those who lack initiative and a work ethic, so can a myriad realities of life. Disability, sickness, death, accidents, mental health breakdowns, economic collapse, employers closing down, all affect not just one person but families, communities and even countries. This is nothing a teenager could fail to understand. So it is quite rational to conclude that what motivates Gandalf to declare that Black people, or anyone else choose to be poor, is an irrational ideology. An ideology that gives him some false sense of superiority and entitlement.

Sure effort, planning, application and a good dose of luck help, but where we are born, to whom we are born, and a whole lifetime of random events have just as much of an impact on how far from poverty we really are.

I don't really believe in fate or karma in a religious sense but I would not want to be in the shoes of someone tempting disaster with talk of how the majority of people in a worse off position than myself deserve to be there. That kind of thinking automatically makes you a ripe target for those selling you the lie that racism is scientific, and an apologist for a ridiculous inequality gap that praises huge corporations and individual billionaires, that profit by not only making poor people poorer, but actually stealing natural resources from them.

I am happy not to be such a cynical entitled boring bastard.

100% agree with this statement. Having survived the catastrophe that was Hurricane Maria, I've seen firsthand how something like that can turn a neighborhood.... a city.... a whole island upside down. Thousands of lives were lost (not the 60-some claimed by Trump)..... infrastructure was shattered.... ways of life were upended. Less than two years later I've personally seen stories of triumph and resilience..... just as I have seen wallowing and "woe is me" attitudes. The other "myriad realities of life" of course include catastrophic illnesses, and personal tragedies that are hard to recover from.

All my life I've resisted lumping people together based on race, ethnic groups, or sexual preferences. I do however, take stands where I feel it's appropriate....... and that inevitably always ends up rubbing some people the wrong way.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

Denilson has hit the mother lode with you, Miles

White Supremacist supporting each other.

You make some good points

Sorry to bust in on your love in with Miles. But of course he makes some good points. Because I suspect that he's white supremacist. Just as I suspect that you are and white supremacist tend to agree with each other.

but as I've said before, the way you go about it makes you an easy target for someone like Denilson

All you are saying to miles is "talk in code" "Don't say black people are stupid. Say blacks have a lower IQ" "Don't say black people are violent. Quote FBI crime stats"

who believes (unless it's a huge windup persona) 100% of white people are racists.

Yes I suspect that a 100% of white people are racist. That means, like you are doing, that you are seeing things in a way that favour your own race and I'm not mad at you. I expect that.

I believe that all white people raised in a society where racism has been and still is so prevalent will have internalized elements of racist thinking: certain beliefs, stereotypes, assumptions, and judgments about others and themselves.

So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority and domination have been historically placed, everyone in such places will have soaked up some of that conditioning.

I've never said white people evil. I never said that white people hate black people.

I know you don't like being called racist, and I'll abstain from calling you that. But you've got some beliefs ingrained in you that could easily provide (and does) cannon fodder for not only Denilson, but someone like Beanz as well.

Notice more white supremacist love in.

Less than 22% of the world is white.
Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

Yet they run the BBC, CNN, the New York Times, Harvard, Penguin, Oxford and Cambridge, Facebook, Twitter. They write most of the Hollywood films. They write most Wikipedia articles. English-speaking white men own and run nearly all the main bits of the Vast Talking Machine.

The white English speaking male POV is often taken as the truth.

That's why when I come here with a different perspective from the white supremacist viewpoint that you think, you find what I say crazy.

Many people in the world learn most of what they know about the world at large from English-speaking white men, from 2.2% of that world, a 2.2% that has a white supremacy view on things. This is a warning against being overly dependent on any one part of the world for your knowledge of the world as a whole.

Anyway, Denilson will continue thinking as he does (unless it's been all a huge, giant chain-pulling exercise) until maturity sets in around his late 40's or 50's.

Many black people think like me. My brothers, My fathers, My friends.

But let me be clear on something.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo

This is where you fking up. You're thinking I'm trying to persuade you and others and then fault me for the way I go about it.

Once again.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo

To persuade people. You need three things:

1. Gain the reader’s trust.
2. Appeal to the head.
3. Appeal to the heart.

Hitler said you just need the last. In any case, my style of writing in regard to whites lacks the first and the last. So it will not persuade most of them because persuading whites to give up the benefits of racism, to become outcasts from white society, to face their shame and guilt at benefiting from a racist society – all that is way, way, way beyond my powers.

I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

And bear in mind. I don't start these racialized topics in saddo.

And here's the really fked up thing

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view.

As if there are not enough people doing that already.

That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

[Dia bando]

Keith are you not a racist.?

[TitoFan]

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments. But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

Denilson has hit the mother lode with you, Miles

White Supremacist supporting each other.

Not worth responding to.

You make some good points

Sorry to bust in on your love in with Miles. But of course he makes some good points. Because I suspect that he's white supremacist. Just as I suspect that you are and white supremacist tend to agree with each other.

(See above). I'd only add that you use the word "suspect" a lot, which of course gives you an "out" whenever reality sets in and you look back in horror at all the nonsense you've posted.

but as I've said before, the way you go about it makes you an easy target for someone like Denilson

All you are saying to miles is "talk in code" "Don't say black people are stupid. Say blacks have a lower IQ" "Don't say black people are violent. Quote FBI crime stats"


I appreciate your efforts in trying to translate what I'm "saying to Miles". Fortunately for both of us, I have a perfect grasp of the English language, and I tend to not talk in "double speak." I got something to say...... I say it.

who believes (unless it's a huge windup persona) 100% of white people are racists.

Yes I suspect that a 100% of white people are racist. That means, like you are doing, that you are seeing things in a way that favour your own race and I'm not mad at you. I expect that.

No..... of course you're not mad. Why would anybody be mad at a whole race they SUSPECT of feeling 100% superior to your own? No...... you're above that.

I believe that all MANY white people raised in a society where racism has been and still is so prevalent will have internalized elements of racist thinking: certain beliefs, stereotypes, assumptions, and judgments about others and themselves.

Now you're close to making a little sense, but I fixed it up for you a little bit. You've long ago made up your mind about me without even knowing me, but I don't make that same mistake. I'll gladly contribute to your maturation process.

So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority and domination have been historically placed, everyone many people in such places will have soaked up some of that conditioning.

Same as above. No charge.

I've never said white people evil. I never said that white people hate black people.

No.... it just oozes out of every sentence you write. If you supposedly think so highly of white people, you're being very contradictory by thinking they're so naive they're gonna believe bullshit like those last two sentences.

I know you don't like being called racist, and I'll abstain from calling you that. But you've got some beliefs ingrained in you that could easily provide (and does) cannon fodder for not only Denilson, but someone like Beanz as well.

Notice more white supremacist love in.

Another comment that does not deserve a response. But no..... you don't hate white people.

Less than 22% of the world is white.
Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

Yet they run the BBC, CNN, the New York Times, Harvard, Penguin, Oxford and Cambridge, Facebook, Twitter. They write most of the Hollywood films. They write most Wikipedia articles. English-speaking white men own and run nearly all the main bits of the Vast Talking Machine.

The white English speaking male POV is often taken as the truth.

That's why when I come here with a different perspective from the white supremacist viewpoint that you think, you find what I say crazy.

Many people in the world learn most of what they know about the world at large from English-speaking white men, from 2.2% of that world, a 2.2% that has a white supremacy view on things. This is a warning against being overly dependent on any one part of the world for your knowledge of the world as a whole.

Anyway, Denilson will continue thinking as he does (unless it's been all a huge, giant chain-pulling exercise) until maturity sets in around his late 40's or 50's.

Many black people think like me. My brothers, My fathers, My friends.

But let me be clear on something.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo

This is where you fking up. You're thinking I'm trying to persuade you and others and then fault me for the way I go about it.

Once again.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo

To persuade people. You need three things:

1. Gain the reader’s trust.
2. Appeal to the head.
3. Appeal to the heart.

Hitler said you just need the last. In any case, my style of writing in regard to whites lacks the first and the last. So it will not persuade most of them because persuading whites to give up the benefits of racism, to become outcasts from white society, to face their shame and guilt at benefiting from a racist society – all that is way, way, way beyond my powers.

I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

And bear in mind. I don't start these racialized topics in saddo.

And here's the really fked up thing

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view.

As if there are not enough people doing that already.

That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

At some point the best of us will lose interest in trying to rehabilitate you. Your youth is no excuse either, as I've known plenty of 20 and 30-year olds who would run rings around you in maturity and emotional intelligence.

So the rest of the comments in your post will go unanswered simply because at some point the amusement stops and the annoyance begins.

If you still feel and express yourself the same way in 20 or 30 years from now, you will have lived a sad, miserable little life.

[p4pking]

As someone who currently lives a sad, miserable little life, I still wish you wouldnt compare me to Denny....

[TitoFan]

As someone who currently lives a sad, miserable little life, I still wish you wouldnt compare me to Denny....

Wha.... you're the king of the one-liners. No way I'd compare you to Denny.

[Fenster]

At some point the best of us will lose interest in trying to rehabilitate you. If you still feel and express yourself the same way in 20 or 30 years from now, you will have lived a sad, miserable little life.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo. I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

Your youth is no excuse either, as I've known plenty of 20 and 30-year olds who would run rings around you in maturity and emotional intelligence. So the rest of the comments in your post will go unanswered simply because at some point the amusement stops and the annoyance begins.

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view. That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

@TITO - why are you trying to change his views and why do they upset/annoy you (as you've admitted)? All he said is - the winners write history and all the biggest and most powerful world rulers, kings and queens, politicians, media, film, literature, technology, corporations, schools, etc have the white man behind them. Hence, this has influenced the way "we" view the world.

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments. But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

No, @TITO, he didn't lose control, you did. You totally ignored his central point. All you did was throw condescending insults which only reaffirmed his belief that white people are supremacists. It's all there in black and white.

You are the American who got speared to death. Fact.

[walrus]

At some point the best of us will lose interest in trying to rehabilitate you. If you still feel and express yourself the same way in 20 or 30 years from now, you will have lived a sad, miserable little life.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo. I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

Your youth is no excuse either, as I've known plenty of 20 and 30-year olds who would run rings around you in maturity and emotional intelligence. So the rest of the comments in your post will go unanswered simply because at some point the amusement stops and the annoyance begins.

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view. That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

@TITO - why are you trying to change his views and why do they upset/annoy you (as you've admitted)? All he said is - the winners write history and all the biggest and most powerful world rulers, kings and queens, politicians, media, film, literature, technology, corporations, schools, etc have the white man behind them. Hence, this has influenced the way "we" view the world.

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments. But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

No, @TITO, he didn't lose control, you did. You totally ignored his central point. All you did was throw condescending insults which only reaffirmed his belief that white people are supremacists. It's all there in black and white.

You are the American who got speared to death. Fact.

Speared to death, that is racist. Big D I would like to apologize on behalf of all white people

[TIC]

At some point the best of us will lose interest in trying to rehabilitate you. If you still feel and express yourself the same way in 20 or 30 years from now, you will have lived a sad, miserable little life.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo. I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

Your youth is no excuse either, as I've known plenty of 20 and 30-year olds who would run rings around you in maturity and emotional intelligence. So the rest of the comments in your post will go unanswered simply because at some point the amusement stops and the annoyance begins.

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view. That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

@TITO - why are you trying to change his views and why do they upset/annoy you (as you've admitted)? All he said is - the winners write history and all the biggest and most powerful world rulers, kings and queens, politicians, media, film, literature, technology, corporations, schools, etc have the white man behind them. Hence, this has influenced the way "we" view the world.

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments. But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

No, @TITO, he didn't lose control, you did. You totally ignored his central point. All you did was throw condescending insults which only reaffirmed his belief that white people are supremacists. It's all there in black and white.

You are the American who got speared to death. Fact.

[TitoFan]

At some point the best of us will lose interest in trying to rehabilitate you. If you still feel and express yourself the same way in 20 or 30 years from now, you will have lived a sad, miserable little life.

I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone in Saddo. I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

Your youth is no excuse either, as I've known plenty of 20 and 30-year olds who would run rings around you in maturity and emotional intelligence. So the rest of the comments in your post will go unanswered simply because at some point the amusement stops and the annoyance begins.

You expect me (A black man) to write to white supremacist point of view. That my posts are such an affront to you speaks VOLUMES about the racism you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to you. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

@TITO - why are you trying to change his views and why do they upset/annoy you (as you've admitted)? All he said is - the winners write history and all the biggest and most powerful world rulers, kings and queens, politicians, media, film, literature, technology, corporations, schools, etc have the white man behind them. Hence, this has influenced the way "we" view the world.

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments. But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

No, @TITO, he didn't lose control, you did. You totally ignored his central point. All you did was throw condescending insults which only reaffirmed his belief that white people are supremacists. It's all there in black and white.

You are the American who got speared to death. Fact.

I'm floored that of all people you, @Fenster , the paragon of wisdom of Saddo's would predictably as clockwork side with someone else..... anyone else...... just to take another poke at me.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to recover from this totally significant and shattering event.

I just want you to know just how much I value your profound beliefs and feelings.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

You predictably lost control of yourself as totally evidenced by your latest comments.

Nope. I'm 100% calm. It would do you best to read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.

And let me tell you something

Whites know on some deep buried level, that if they were in our position, they would feel a murderous rage towards black people.

I think on a level that's so buried deep in their subconscious. They are aware of the violence and the THREATENED violence that it takes to keep a system going that they receive collective privileges from. Many know (again subconsciously) that back rage is justified.

What makes sense to the Wolf is not going to make sense to the sheep. What makes sense to the fox is not going to make sense to the hound.

But it's not just my opinion. It's all there in black and white for all to see. You began making a token attempt at being coherent and..... when you found you were dealing with a mature adult..... you've reverted back to your snide comments, lacking any logic with which to defend your laughable beliefs.

Snide comments ? Like what ? You're a mature adult now ? And that means what ? Many white supremacists are mature adults. What's your point ?

You're feeling offended by the same discussions you claimed you want to have. But you realize you're wrong. So you're getting defensive because “white has to be right”

That’s where the ad-hominems start kicking in.

You start getting disrespectful and derailing until the initial topic is too screwed up to continue with everyone thinking clearly. It’s not even an argument because you stopped seeing it as such the minute you didn’t get the pedestal you wanted.

(See above). I'd only add that you use the word "suspect" a lot, which of course gives you an "out" whenever reality sets in and you look back in horror at all the nonsense you've posted

What nonsense did I post ?

Look. Racism and hatred are two different things (albeit sometimes complementary)

For instance - You don’t hang a man and slowly roast him because you are racist. Neither do you rape a young girl because of some kind of ideology. Those things - They would've done them anyway.

So why is it important to tell if a white person is racist ? Because racism main and sole purpose has always been to shepherd the thoughts of the beneficiaries of white supremacy (also known as white people) not to be confused with white skinned human beings or Caucasians as they like to be dignified with.

Racism doesn’t force one’s behaviour to be fked up, it’s rather the other way around. That person’s behavior was fked up to begin with. Racism only enters into the picture because it provides a frame of plausible normality to what would otherwise be considered abnormal.

I appreciate your efforts in trying to translate what I'm "saying to Miles". Fortunately for both of us, I have a perfect grasp of the English language, and I tend to not talk in "double speak." I got something to say...... I say it.

More babble

[Why would anybody be mad at a whole race they SUSPECT of feeling 100% superior to your own? No...... you're above that.

I've never said that whites are superior to blk ppl. I've said that whites are in superior position and that will be true in P.Rico

White P.Ricans on top
Black P.Ricans on the bottom

You've long ago made up your mind about me without even knowing me, but I don't make that same mistake. I'll gladly contribute to your maturation process.

I've met white supremacists like you all my life. I don't need to know you.

There has to be some sort of humility on the part of white people.

They have a lot to answer for and racism won’t go away as long as they are too afraid to just sit down and look at why it’s still a problem.

No I don’t mean thinking being nice to a black waitress gets you a medal. As long as they just view the situation as a case of “ENT” (Emotional Negro Thinking as all white supremacist try to do) instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the white privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” you keep asking for.

To be honest what really bothers you is that a black man has the nerve to speak with passion. This, in fact, scares you. What is really desired is for the black person to admit the desired hierarchy, to get “back in place.”

I know how you think.

No.... it just oozes out of every sentence you write. If you supposedly think so highly of white people, you're being very contradictory by thinking they're so naive they're gonna believe bullshit like those last two sentences.

Nope. I've never said white people evil. I never said that white people hate black people. Trying reading my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.

Apart from a few nuts white people do not walk out their door in the morning saying, “I am going to screw black people”

They don't have to : Their forefathers set up the country to do just that.