Pacquiao vs Thurman

[p4pking]

Well its just as fentanyl says, Manny won the “fight”and Thurmans having no argument for that suggests he knows it as nobody in that kind of fight is trying to score, but in terms of rounds It was very close and there were at least a few Thurman did win clear I thought. Certainly didnt see it as Manny having his way except for the first 4 or 5 rounds, he was missing a lot and taking big shots. Was actually surprised he held up to them so well overall, but I think its because Thurman landed most of his best stuff either in a phone booth or coming forward, rather than walk Manny onto anything.

[fan johnny]

I watched the KD replay on you tube and it was a clean KD no tripping or foot stepping. Pacquiao proved he can still bang in the Ring at 40 but father time keeps creeping in with each fight.

[imp]

Close fight but Pac won.

Spence would kill Thurman with the body shots.

Manny still looked old in certain parts of the fight and should retire or face Crawford or Spence.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

Was never a fan of Thurman. I am now. Boys got heart. He was very hurt and still was trying to win. He was no bicycle boy for 12 rounds. I think they're both good guys and the pre-fight trash talk from Thurman was really surprising;

His wife is hella fine though



But Thurman is not a high IQ fighter as he thinks he is. He should have been more patience, feinting, taking two steps back, making Pac more desperate till he starts lunging in, then he counters him.

As for Pac man ?

Beating a prime undefeated career welterweight champ at the age of 40 is an extremely solid feather in the cap for The Fighting Senator. I have to admit, I underestimated GrandPac too much. I though one time would win easy. I was wrong.

To be honest I celebrated more for the fact that the judges didn't fk this one up for a change. This should keep me going for a while.

But who the F let Adelene Byrd through the doors ?

Don't get me wrong Pac didn't run Thurman out of the ring but anything other than a UD for Pac in that fight was some home cooking. It was a close-ish fight overall but Manny completely dominates the rounds that he wins because he hurts his opponents in almost all of them

Also, this just shows how high level Pac and Mayweather were in the last era. Those guys in their prime thoroughly wreck all the welterweight’s careers of this generation.

All this said; Manny please retire at 40 with 2 brand new belts. You’ve done it all. There's nothing left for you to prove. You were in the ring with a champion but the other two are like you when you fought Delahoya, Cotto, Margarito. Give them THEIR time now. You've had yours. I've truly enjoyed watching you. Thank you.

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[Cleon]

Manny still a beast at 40 Keef classy in defeat

[TIC]

pacman! i don't mind a rematch

[brucelee]

I agree with Freddie Roach that Pacman should retire now. The accumulation of heavy punches Pac had through the years might take its toll in his next big fights.

I am watching again Pac's fights (at flyweight until his recent fights) and I am convinced that he needs to retire to protect his health and to avoid further damage to his body and head.

The Thurman fight is an example of how he was punished with heavy punches which is almost similar with the morales, marquez, margarito and cotto fights.

[Fenster]

Well its just as fentanyl says, Manny won the “fight”and Thurmans having no argument for that suggests he knows it as nobody in that kind of fight is trying to score, but in terms of rounds It was very close and there were at least a few Thurman did win clear I thought. Certainly didnt see it as Manny having his way except for the first 4 or 5 rounds, he was missing a lot and taking big shots. Was actually surprised he held up to them so well overall, but I think its because Thurman landed most of his best stuff either in a phone booth or coming forward, rather than walk Manny onto anything.

I expected Thurman to play counter but it was apparent from the opening round he was molasses compared to Pac and not half as talented as Marquez who could punch with him as well as walk him onto shit. And after the first round, even when pressuring he looked "terrified" (over-conscious) of the burst coming back.

Thurman's success with pressure just confirmed Ricky Hatton would have battered Pac if it wasn't for the lucky punch in the 2nd round.

[TitoFan]

Woke up this morning and read all the posts and was just about to post how I agreed with all the analysis from everybody until I read that good joke in the last paragraph of the last post.

Obviously intended as a joke, as anyone who knows anything about boxing knows Hatton never belonged in the ring with Manny in the first place. All that chloroforming punch did was accentuate the obvious.

Hell of a good joke, though.

[TitoFan]

Side-splitting jokes aside, I agree with most of the analysis I've read here post-fight. All credit in the world to Manny. He put Father Time on hold for this one time (excuse the pun), and clearly won the fight IMO. Thurman fought bravely and courageously, and didn't get on his bicycle trying to escape. He hit Manny clean with some flush right hands and Manny took them better than I would've thought. It was later in the fight though. Had Thurman cracked him with those same punches early... we might have seen a different fight.

Yeah, Manny should retire on this high. Absolutely nothing left to prove. Yes... and FFS, don't give in to the whining Khan.

[Ron Swanson]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

[powerpuncher]

I am not a Pacquiao fan at all but he looked insanely good for a 40 year old especially at a lower weight. There were some rounds where his age showed but he had some really good spurts. I’m curious why Thurman seemed to change his style so much for this fight. I get that you change things up a little depending on your opponent, but I feel like Thurman didn’t use his athleticism like he normally does in his fights. He tried to use his jab which was crazy because he didn’t even have a jab before this fight.

Great match making though. Thurman who is undefeated and used to be at the top of the division was a big name that they could exploit. And Thurman said on Twitter about him not caring about losing his “0” because he wants to fight the best. That’s obviously not true because he very clearly ducked Spence on multiple occasions. Pacquiao just gave him much more money.

At this point in Pacquiao’s career, I want him to fight the best or go away.

[Pavlik]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka...-drug-testing/

[Ron Swanson]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka...-drug-testing/

You do realize that this article states he wasn’t in VADA’s testing program right? But rather the WBC’s testing program administered by VADA. I can find you articles explaining that the WBCs testing program spends about 40$ per fighter per month if you like, that’s about 1 basic test per fighter per month. If you want more detailed tests you get less. In short the WBCs testing program is a joke. Propping it up as evidence is only evidence of not knowing the WBCs program. Actually, I’ll take 1 minute and find you a video explaining this, it’s in the Whyte thread already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTDFV8EPKU


40$ per fighter per month, right in there for you. But if you think that’s the kind of money it takes to catch cheats making millions well, that’s adorable