Pacquiao vs Thurman

[Fenster]

Well its just as fentanyl says, Manny won the “fight”and Thurmans having no argument for that suggests he knows it as nobody in that kind of fight is trying to score, but in terms of rounds It was very close and there were at least a few Thurman did win clear I thought. Certainly didnt see it as Manny having his way except for the first 4 or 5 rounds, he was missing a lot and taking big shots. Was actually surprised he held up to them so well overall, but I think its because Thurman landed most of his best stuff either in a phone booth or coming forward, rather than walk Manny onto anything.

I expected Thurman to play counter but it was apparent from the opening round he was molasses compared to Pac and not half as talented as Marquez who could punch with him as well as walk him onto shit. And after the first round, even when pressuring he looked "terrified" (over-conscious) of the burst coming back.

Thurman's success with pressure just confirmed Ricky Hatton would have battered Pac if it wasn't for the lucky punch in the 2nd round.

[TitoFan]

Woke up this morning and read all the posts and was just about to post how I agreed with all the analysis from everybody until I read that good joke in the last paragraph of the last post.

Obviously intended as a joke, as anyone who knows anything about boxing knows Hatton never belonged in the ring with Manny in the first place. All that chloroforming punch did was accentuate the obvious.

Hell of a good joke, though.

[TitoFan]

Side-splitting jokes aside, I agree with most of the analysis I've read here post-fight. All credit in the world to Manny. He put Father Time on hold for this one time (excuse the pun), and clearly won the fight IMO. Thurman fought bravely and courageously, and didn't get on his bicycle trying to escape. He hit Manny clean with some flush right hands and Manny took them better than I would've thought. It was later in the fight though. Had Thurman cracked him with those same punches early... we might have seen a different fight.

Yeah, Manny should retire on this high. Absolutely nothing left to prove. Yes... and FFS, don't give in to the whining Khan.

[Ron Swanson]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

[powerpuncher]

I am not a Pacquiao fan at all but he looked insanely good for a 40 year old especially at a lower weight. There were some rounds where his age showed but he had some really good spurts. I’m curious why Thurman seemed to change his style so much for this fight. I get that you change things up a little depending on your opponent, but I feel like Thurman didn’t use his athleticism like he normally does in his fights. He tried to use his jab which was crazy because he didn’t even have a jab before this fight.

Great match making though. Thurman who is undefeated and used to be at the top of the division was a big name that they could exploit. And Thurman said on Twitter about him not caring about losing his “0” because he wants to fight the best. That’s obviously not true because he very clearly ducked Spence on multiple occasions. Pacquiao just gave him much more money.

At this point in Pacquiao’s career, I want him to fight the best or go away.

[Pavlik]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka...-drug-testing/

[Ron Swanson]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka...-drug-testing/

You do realize that this article states he wasn’t in VADA’s testing program right? But rather the WBC’s testing program administered by VADA. I can find you articles explaining that the WBCs testing program spends about 40$ per fighter per month if you like, that’s about 1 basic test per fighter per month. If you want more detailed tests you get less. In short the WBCs testing program is a joke. Propping it up as evidence is only evidence of not knowing the WBCs program. Actually, I’ll take 1 minute and find you a video explaining this, it’s in the Whyte thread already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTDFV8EPKU


40$ per fighter per month, right in there for you. But if you think that’s the kind of money it takes to catch cheats making millions well, that’s adorable

[Pavlik]

Manny did fantastic. Thurman still doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. His quickness is still there but his speed is severely diminished. But that’s his problem not Manny’s. I thought Thurman fought a dumb fight but again, Thurman’s fault, not Manny’s. For once I am not attempting to diminish Manny. Just stating what I saw. And none of it diminishes Manny, he is a 40 year old man. Like has been said, besting a 30 year old undefeated career welter is impressive. Sure there was no VADA testing for some reason that we don’t know wink wink. But both were not tested so fair playing field. Fantastic career by Manny, first ballot hall of Famer and probably top 25 fighter of all time. Retire on this high, don’t get destroyed by Spence or Crawford.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka...-drug-testing/

You do realize that this article states he wasn’t in VADA’s testing program right? But rather the WBC’s testing program administered by VADA. I can find you articles explaining that the WBCs testing program spends about 40$ per fighter per month if you like, that’s about 1 basic test per fighter per month. If you want more detailed tests you get less. In short the WBCs testing program is a joke. Propping it up as evidence is only evidence of not knowing the WBCs program. Actually, I’ll take 1 minute and find you a video explaining this, it’s in the Whyte thread already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTDFV8EPKU


40$ per fighter per month, right in there for you. But if you think that’s the kind of money it takes to catch cheats making millions well, that’s adorable

Good point.

[KananKrus]

[QUOTE=Ron Swanson;1525571][QUOTE=Pavlik;1525570]

You do realize that this article states he wasn’t in VADA’s testing program right? But rather the WBC’s testing program administered by VADA. I can find you articles explaining that the WBCs testing program spends about 40$ per fighter per month if you like, that’s about 1 basic test per fighter per month. If you want more detailed tests you get less. In short the WBCs testing program is a joke. Propping it up as evidence is only evidence of not knowing the WBCs program. Actually, I’ll take 1 minute and find you a video explaining this, it’s in the Whyte thread already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTDFV8EPKU


40$ per fighter per month, right in there for you. But if you think that’s the kind of money it takes to catch cheats making millions well, that’s adorable

Have I misread this posted article?

THE FACTS
I reached out to VADA president Dr. Margaret Goodman and asked is she would have a few moments to speak or do a brief interview regarding the controversy surrounding the Pacquiao vs. Thurman fight regarding whether or not there were appropriate pre and post-fight drug testing involving VADA in any capacity. Goodman's response to my e-mail was, "I appreciate you contacting me, but this is something that should be discussed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission." When I followed up asking if she can you confirm that Manny Pacquiao has been enrolled in VADA testing via the WBC Clean Boxing Program prior to this fight, Goodman replied, "Yes."



...if so it probably means that VADA doesn’t recognize the WBC Clean Boxing Program... although through the same WBC program, someone can be enrolled in VADA testing. Confusing.