Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
Originally Posted by
Gandalf
I think there is a very solid observation if the IQ differences are all occurring in the same nation as in the US. It seems pretty cut and dry in terms of the research into race and IQ. There are of course exceptional people in any group and there are unexceptional people in any group, but it just means that as a whole the intelligence levels are significantly different. Thus it is that the East Asians in America perform the best in terms of family structure, academic performance, and overall economic outcomes. There are the Ashkenazi Jews too of course who fly off the radar when it comes to IQ. In saying that of course you treat everyone as an individual and so one can either perform well on an intelligence test or they can't. The controversy is really about nature versus nurture rather than if there are differences. It is undeniable unless we are going to burn the plethora of research data compiled over decades and delete it from the Internet.
I get why it is sticky, but I just think people should be treated as individuals thus no affirmative action and reduced welfare incentives and let the genuinely talented rise. By looking at IQ we learn about behavior too thus we can see who is more likely to be a single Mum or a criminal and so on. It is not absolute by any stretch, but by just preaching racism and social injustice is not really the full picture. The left wants to eliminate IQ debate as it means accepting that we simply are not all the same from an intelligence basis. However, we are of course all people and should aspire to better performance.
Here's a question I've asked many times from you guys who are always running around trying to prove how stupid black people are.
What do you do with a race of black people who you claim are dumb (ON average) ?
I don't care what you think of black intelligence because frankly call me intellectually inferor all day
I don't give a sh*t about that
You are saying (On average) your smarter than me because your white and I'm black
YES YOU ARE
Happy now ?
Now what ?
And that's were guys like you wimp out when it's comes to the doing part. And that's thing about white supremacy "Tell black people what they are but never say what we are gonna do"
And guess what ?
If whites turned around and said "We are gonna finally stop telling black ppl what they are and we are gonna tell them what we are gonna do. Tune in at 9"
I'd be like
And if they turned around and said "We are gonna kill every black person on the planet or die trying"
Once again I'd be like
And I'd go down fighting
Stop talking. Stop trying to prove points. We don't need points. Either do justice or let's just get it on for the last time and for the final time
Period.
I will address your points one by one.
1. If you think I think black people are all stupid then you have misunderstood my points
2. How would you define dumb? If you have an IQ of 85 then you have the capacity to do something, so whatever work is available to someone of that level. However, the ones who race beyond that, and many of course do, can and will aspire to education and jobs requiring skill. Thus many black people do very well.
3. You see yourself as inferior whence barking on about the evils of white men day in day out refusing to accept you have agency. Is the white man making so many black men abandon their children? Look at the single mother rates 50 years ago and today. Surely you can see that behavior has changed and not just in the black community. The same is happening to a lesser degree in the Hispanic and White communities. Things go wrong when there are no male role models and if the mother is someone prone to making bad decisions, then you have social problems. I personally think welfare makes lazy people dependent. Get the cat on a treadmill and earn its food. Don't let it sleep all day.
4. I get no delight in statistics. They just tell us about what is real and help us explain why things are as they are. Why do you use such a big font?
5. What would I do? Cut welfare, encourage self responsibility, family planning, and let nature run its course. I do not see black people as anything other than human and like any group they can aspire to do better. Instead it is slavery this and slavery that, when even the white man was in effect a slave several centuries back too. Times change, systems change, and in this one nobody is a slave in the traditional sense. We have agency, we can choose our paths, and it is up to the individual what they do. I would cut off the welfare tap somewhat as that has only made things worse. Self improvement, be better today, so that fewer are harmed tomorrow. Can't afford a kid, then just don't have one. Don't want a kid, then don't have one. Want a kid, then love it, and work hard to do everything you can within a good relationship. That's where you start.
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