The "Can We Keep it Civil?" Thread

[walrus]

Omg brother big D is worse than the transphobia thread.

[Dark Lord Al]

If only the death cult following Denilson had a job, his voice may have more pull for his pathetic ethnic gripes.
Life is good for all of us and we all have our places in society .
Some people are jealous of others because they are worthless vermin.

[Gandalf]

Eh? You clearly ignored or did not take in what I was saying. You should not say someone is telling a lie when something verifiably true is told to you. Nor should you say something is ignored when it is addressed. Nor should you assume the experiences and actions of other black people when they are clearly nothing like you. The black people I have known do well because they are intelligent and are not ideological zealots like you. They respect the tolerance and freedom that the West provides. You come across as a bit rude, Dennis.

You are entitled to your point of view, but if life is so bad then go and live in one of the black utopia states and quit bitching. Those are your options. Stay and better yourself. Or go. Have a good day. If you are English then be an Englishman.

[p4pking]

I think Denilson is coming across more civilly than you lot, he's made some excellent points, responded directly to you with substance, and all he gets back is ad hominem or the same thing he has already broken down without any response to his argument, yet,.... he's the one missing the point? lame. You either aren't reading his posts or you're just throwing shade hoping nobody else will, and because you either know you can't or don't have the energy to debate. This was about as predictable as that Truce thread.

[Gandalf]

I think you are missing the prior exchanges and somehow ignoring his glaring accusations. For instance, I am the last person on earth to be ignoring the problem of single motherhood in the white community. I am not the one declaring that I will go down fighting or calling anyone sub human. I have basically been saying 'sort it out' and 'show some agency'. Go back and address Denilson's quirks. I was reasonable and then in the end stated reasonably 'If you don't like it then go somewhere nice'. If the most tolerant country on earth is not good enough for him then nothing will please him. It's a long moan and he thinks he is inferior. A shrink might help.

[Gandalf]

You are right when I say I do not have the time. A verbal debate is fine, but it takes time to type and frankly I have work to do, so yes 'Cheer up or find a new paradise' are my only words of consolation. At the end of the day the facts exist and there is not a whole lot I can do to increase IQ among groups beyond encouraging agency and good behavior.

[p4pking]

I may have missed something, obviously he can be and has been nasty in the past as we all have, but I was just talking about this thread. he was making a good argument and cited more facts than you did by a long ways, also asked some very blunt questions you didn't attempt to answer. Yet you continue to make lengthy posts claiming it's a matter of time, all the while saying nothing. Itd be funny if you meant it to be.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

You are right when I say I do not have the time. A verbal debate is fine, but it takes time to type and frankly I have work to do, so yes 'Cheer up or find a new paradise' are my only words of consolation. At the end of the day the facts exist and there is not a whole lot I can do to increase IQ among groups beyond encouraging agency and good behavior.

It does take time to respond. It took me hours to write that IQ post and it's not something I'm gonna do often.

My wife wonders whether it makes sense to spend so much time and energy responding to your Nazi claims

Because let's be clear - The bedrock of Nazi ideology was the intellectual superiority of the Aryan race and the inferiority of the negro race.

It would be nice not to have to respond to you, but the fact is, guys who think like you have been cited approvingly by conservative columnists and talking heads, guys who think like you are in serious positions of power. Donald Trump is often doing racist dog whistles about IQ

So given the appeal of racist logic to so many, and given the strength of institutional racism as a defining force, I can hardly afford the luxury of ignoring your position, so as to “not give you legitimacy.”

The fact is that racism already enjoys plenty of legitimacy

Ignoring this reality isn’t likely to diminish its strength, but I will always-always challenge it because frankly what saying is horse-sh*t.

Because for many reasons that I've pointed out and another one is that intelligence is not something quantifiable you can’t measure how intelligent someone is, because to begin with you would have to be able to define intelligence very specifically and that can’t be done because intelligence, like many words that define brain functions is an umbrella term that describes several properties of thought(communication, reasoning, understanding) working in tandem

Finally it is absurd to rest a moral claim about how a society should be structured, upon the claims of scientists. There are always different scientists who have different evidence. If you think science can settle moral questions, you need only look at the debate and differing scientific opinions over climate change to see how wrong such an assumption can be.

[Denilson-The-Comeback]

It's a long moan and he thinks he is inferior. A shrink might help.

I can't compete with you dude



You're the superior one. I bow before your presence. Your just so dam intellectually superior to me. I'm just so jealous