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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    You are right when I say I do not have the time. A verbal debate is fine, but it takes time to type and frankly I have work to do, so yes 'Cheer up or find a new paradise' are my only words of consolation. At the end of the day the facts exist and there is not a whole lot I can do to increase IQ among groups beyond encouraging agency and good behavior.
    It does take time to respond. It took me hours to write that IQ post and it's not something I'm gonna do often.

    My wife wonders whether it makes sense to spend so much time and energy responding to your Nazi claims

    Because let's be clear - The bedrock of Nazi ideology was the intellectual superiority of the Aryan race and the inferiority of the negro race.

    It would be nice not to have to respond to you, but the fact is, guys who think like you have been cited approvingly by conservative columnists and talking heads, guys who think like you are in serious positions of power. Donald Trump is often doing racist dog whistles about IQ

    So given the appeal of racist logic to so many, and given the strength of institutional racism as a defining force, I can hardly afford the luxury of ignoring your position, so as to “not give you legitimacy.”

    The fact is that racism already enjoys plenty of legitimacy

    Ignoring this reality isn’t likely to diminish its strength, but I will always-always challenge it because frankly what saying is horse-sh*t.

    Because for many reasons that I've pointed out and another one is that intelligence is not something quantifiable you can’t measure how intelligent someone is, because to begin with you would have to be able to define intelligence very specifically and that can’t be done because intelligence, like many words that define brain functions is an umbrella term that describes several properties of thought(communication, reasoning, understanding) working in tandem

    Finally it is absurd to rest a moral claim about how a society should be structured, upon the claims of scientists. There are always different scientists who have different evidence. If you think science can settle moral questions, you need only look at the debate and differing scientific opinions over climate change to see how wrong such an assumption can be.

    Last edited by Denilson-The-Comeback; 08-21-2019 at 03:28 PM.

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