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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    You didn't answer the questions ,
    1. why did the black people let white people take over south Africa ?
    2. Going off your logic of no white person can be African , I asked does that mean all blacks are African and not say for example English ?

    If white people are tigers then isn't killing them the poaching of an endangered species?

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    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face. If he works does he let his boss know his views? Coworkers? If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal. Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy. It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake. The closest he ever-came to answering the question is that racism is institutional so I guess he doesn’t blame the “white man” he blames “the white men” I wonder what number is the cut off, is it three white guys or ten. When does brother Big D stop the phony smile to the white man. I avoid brother big D but I have posed this question to him several times and have yet to get any answer outside of the “institutional” thing. Maybe he has done enough research or talked to the Israelites and has finally come up with something.

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    I'll take a crack at that, since you'll grow old waiting for an answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face. Hypocritically. Ain't no way you can go through life spewing the same shit in person as he does here.

    If he works does he let his boss know his views? Hell no, are you kidding? Whether his boss is black, white, or any other color... ain't no boss in the WORLD who would put up with the constant barrage of racial bullshit this guy is capable of vomiting.


    Coworkers? I doubt it. Remember the clip I posted of the movie "Airplane". They'd all have committed suicide by now (or murder).

    If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Probably. He's racist, but that doesn't mean he's not polite out in public.

    Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal. I imagine. Same as previous reason.

    Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy. I suspect he keeps his racist bullshit pretty much to himself. It would be hard to function in the real world if he didn't.

    It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake. Absolutely.

    The closest he ever-came to answering the question is that racism is institutional so I guess he doesn’t blame the “white man” he blames “the white men” I wonder what number is the cut off, is it three white guys or ten. Makes no difference. In his twisted mind, one white man is the same as a bunch of white men. All white supremacists.

    When does brother Big D stop the phony smile to the white man. Never. Someone with that kind of mindset can never smile genuinely toward a white person.

    I avoid brother big D but I have posed this question to him several times and have yet to get any answer outside of the “institutional” thing. Maybe he has done enough research or talked to the Israelites and has finally come up with something.

    I hope I've been of some help here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'll take a crack at that, since you'll grow old waiting for an answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face. Hypocritically. Ain't no way you can go through life spewing the same shit in person as he does here.

    If he works does he let his boss know his views? Hell no, are you kidding? Whether his boss is black, white, or any other color... ain't no boss in the WORLD who would put up with the constant barrage of racial bullshit this guy is capable of vomiting.


    Coworkers? I doubt it. Remember the clip I posted of the movie "Airplane". They'd all have committed suicide by now (or murder).

    If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Probably. He's racist, but that doesn't mean he's not polite out in public.

    Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal. I imagine. Same as previous reason.

    Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy. I suspect he keeps his racist bullshit pretty much to himself. It would be hard to function in the real world if he didn't.

    It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake. Absolutely.

    The closest he ever-came to answering the question is that racism is institutional so I guess he doesn’t blame the “white man” he blames “the white men” I wonder what number is the cut off, is it three white guys or ten. Makes no difference. In his twisted mind, one white man is the same as a bunch of white men. All white supremacists.

    When does brother Big D stop the phony smile to the white man. Never. Someone with that kind of mindset can never smile genuinely toward a white person.

    I avoid brother big D but I have posed this question to him several times and have yet to get any answer outside of the “institutional” thing. Maybe he has done enough research or talked to the Israelites and has finally come up with something.

    I hope I've been of some help here.
    Thanks tits you done good. I know Big D impresses some people here with his IQ talk and debates with a few members. I think they must have forgotten the vile shit he has been posting between bans. He must have some extreme mental pain going on and on with that nonsense but having to put on a happy face when out among the tigers (white man). It is hypocrisy at his finest. A certain member stuck up for him a couple times when I said something, I just let it go but I was surprised the dude was so stupid. So let brother D have his fun but in the end, Keith Ellison is all he is. I remember that cause Brock internet stalked him as well. He pulled up a pic of Big brother D teaching white kids soccer. Keith, how did you teach the young whiteys are they born with white sin? Just being born white makes us tigers right? Not our actions.

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    I lived in South Africa during Apartheid, and I have family living in Zim, Zambia and Tanzania. I've been to those places many times and even studied the history of Southern Africa as an A level special project.

    Denilson must obviously have close ties to there too, seeing as he knows so much about it
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    I lived in South Africa during Apartheid, and I have family living in Zim, Zambia and Tanzania. I've been to those places many times and even studied the history of Southern Africa as an A level special project.

    Denilson must obviously have close ties to there too, seeing as he knows so much about it
    Yes, he is an expert on the US and South Africa apparently good catch X

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face. If he works does he let his boss know his views? Coworkers? If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal. Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy. It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake. The closest he ever-came to answering the question is that racism is institutional so I guess he doesn’t blame the “white man” he blames “the white men” Iwonder what number is the cut off, is it three white guys or ten. When does brother Big D stop the phony smile to the white man. I avoid brother big D but I have posed this question to him several times and have yet to get any answer outside of the “institutional” thing. Maybe he has done enough research or talked to the Israelites and has finally come up with something.
    Nothing on this @Denilson-The-Comeback
    Last edited by walrus; 08-28-2019 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face.
    You start off by trying to frame the debate and you want to proceed the discussion from the frame you are putting up. That is, racism is a personal thing and this is why why discussions between blacks and whites about racism are often pointless because we are often not talking about the same thing.

    To white folks (In the main) racism is seen mostly as individual (saying a slur)

    For blacks, it is that too, but typically racism is the experience of systematized discrimination in housing, employment, schools or the justice system. It is the knowledge that one’s entire group is under suspicion, at risk of being treated negatively because of stereotypes held by persons with the power to act on the basis of those beliefs..

    To whites, it's purely personal. This is why all of your questions below about racism are about how blacks and whites interact on a personal level. What has that go to do with systematic racism ?

    But these differences make sense I guess. Whites have not been the targets of systemic racism in the USA so it is much easier for u to view the matter in personal terms as you say "One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face"

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    If he works does he let his boss know his views? Coworkers?
    Once again - Personal

    I'm under a global system of racism and that system creates a dependency on the ppl it shits on. So I do what all blacks and whites do when we interact in the workplace and that's pretend. Black ppl pretend that racism does not exist around whites and whites pretend that racism does not exist. And everything that happens is fluke

    Black ppl filling the prisons ? That's a fluke. Black people living in the most socially deprived areas ? That's a fluke. Black ppl getting their brains blown out and the cops walking free ? That's a fluke

    And then from this arrangement whites sum up that racism because blacks don't talk about it to them.

    Also interaction between whites and blacks at work depends on the position of the white person in relation to the black person. If a black person is a janitor or cleaner or in a lowly position then white people will be SUPER NICE to that black person. "Hey Bob. See the Knicks last night" All that fake sh*t.

    Now if a black person is in a superior position to them ? Earns more money than them ? And is ordering them about ?



    That's mainly when they have a problem. That's when they go running to the chairman and CEO and snitching.

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal.
    You don't get a point from me for doing something you should do. If I was to go to prison. I'm pretty sure the guards would be polite but firm to me. So what ? I'm still under that system.

    Whites having personal affinity for a black person says nothing about how they view blks as a whole. There were many whites who supported enslavement and segregation as social systems, and yet, managed to conjure personal kindness for individual black people.

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy.
    When have I said that whites are the enemy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake.
    You're trying to read my mind. Instead of reading my words.

    There has to be humility on the part of white people. They have a lot to answer for and racism won’t go away as long as whites are too afraid to sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem.

    No I don’t mean find a solution as thinking that being nice to a black waitress gets them a medal. I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them.

    Humility.

    As long as you view the situation as “angry hateful black ppl" instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” you keep asking for.
    Last edited by Denilson-The-Comeback; 08-31-2019 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face.
    You start off by trying to frame the debate and you want to proceed the discussion from the frame you are putting up. That is, racism is a personal thing and this is why why discussions between blacks and whites about racism are often pointless because we are often not talking about the same thing.

    To white folks (In the main) racism is seen mostly as individual (saying a slur)

    For blacks, it is that too, but typically racism is the experience of systematized discrimination in housing, employment, schools or the justice system. It is the knowledge that one’s entire group is under suspicion, at risk of being treated negatively because of stereotypes held by persons with the power to act on the basis of those beliefs..

    To whites, it's purely personal. This is why all of your questions below about racism are about how blacks and whites interact on a personal level. What has that go to do with systematic racism ?

    But these differences make sense I guess. Whites have not been the targets of systemic racism in the USA so it is much easier for u to view the matter in personal terms as you say "One question big D always avoids is how he treats the white man to his face"

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    If he works does he let his boss know his views? Coworkers?
    Once again - Personal

    I'm under a global system of racism and that system creates a dependency on the ppl it shits on. So I do what all blacks and whites do when we interact in the workplace and that's pretend. Black ppl pretend that racism does not exist around whites and whites pretend that racism does not exist. And everything that happens is fluke

    Black ppl filling the prisons ? That's a fluke. Black people living in the most socially deprived areas ? That's a fluke. Black ppl getting their brains blown out and the cops walking free ? That's a fluke

    And then from this arrangement whites sum up that racism because blacks don't talk about it to them.

    Also interaction between whites and blacks at work depends on the position of the white person in relation to the black person. If a black person is a janitor or cleaner or in a lowly position then white people will be SUPER NICE to that black person. "Hey Bob. See the Knicks last night" All that fake sh*t.

    Now if a black person is in a superior position to them ? Earns more money than them ? And is ordering them about ?



    That's mainly when they have a problem. That's when they go running to the chairman and CEO and snitching.

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    If a white guy holds the door open for him does he say thanks you. Does he shake the white mans hand after making a deal.
    You don't get a point from me for doing something you should do. If I was to go to prison. I'm pretty sure the guards would be polite but firm to me. So what ? I'm still under that system.

    Whites having personal affinity for a black person says nothing about how they view blks as a whole. There were many whites who supported enslavement and segregation as social systems, and yet, managed to conjure personal kindness for individual black people.

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Just everyday walking around how does he deal with the enemy.
    When have I said that whites are the enemy ?

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    It would seem to me if he integrated himself into society giving the white man a smile or “hey my brother” than he is fake.
    You're trying to read my mind. Instead of reading my words.

    There has to be humility on the part of white people. They have a lot to answer for and racism won’t go away as long as whites are too afraid to sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem.

    No I don’t mean find a solution as thinking that being nice to a black waitress gets them a medal. I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them.

    Humility.

    As long as you view the situation as “angry hateful black ppl" instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” you keep asking for.
    Big D you have said numerous times in the past you deal with the white individual differently as racism is institutional. You can’t keep your stories straight. Took a awhile to put that one together though

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