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    I’m not sure how good Berchelt is but I am sure he is underrated because he is simply ignored. Loma shouldn’t have been given a pass for not fighting him and Davis shouldn’t be given a pass now if he doesn’t fight him. He definitely belongs on this list.

    I say Ortiz, for some reason UK fans always talk about how old he is rather than how good he is.

    Julian Williams, the way he dispatched Hurd was damn impressive

    Thinking about this I quickly realize I don’t pay as close attention to all things boxing as I used to. I would have had a 20 person list in 2 minutes 8/9 years ago or farther back. I think the propaganda has burned me out. Should stop talking about the sport so much and just watch it.

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    Wilder.
    What a shame we have a knockout artist that is dogged for not being something other than that. How many KO fighters actually had a sweet science style? Not Shavers, not Tua. Not Foreman, not Julian Jackson as we remembered had to have a few come from behind kos as with Graham.


    All these supposed great heavies he is so-called ducking couldn't get the belt? Or any belt?
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Wilder.
    What a shame we have a knockout artist that is dogged for not being something other than that. How many KO fighters actually had a sweet science style? Not Shavers, not Tua. Not Foreman, not Julian Jackson as we remembered had to have a few come from behind kos as with Graham.


    All these supposed great heavies he is so-called ducking couldn't get the belt? Or any belt?
    Wilder brought that all on himself by fighting bums for so long. Yes he won all the fights, but lord have mercy he fought some absolute shocking bouts. Now he CAN fix it by only fighting the best from now on.



    Most underrated at present is Bud Crawford, he's always going to be underrated until he's given a big time fight vs a Pacquiao or Mayweather. All he does is win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I say Ortiz, for some reason UK fans always talk about how old he is rather than how good he is.

    (hand up) Ooooh!! Me! Me!
    'Cause he hasn't fought AJ or Fury yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Julian Williams, the way he dispatched Hurd was damn impressive

    Agree. I can see why though. He wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he up and got flattened by Charlo. Since then however, he's been most impressive.... and continues to fly under the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I say Ortiz, for some reason UK fans always talk about how old he is rather than how good he is.

    (hand up) Ooooh!! Me! Me!
    'Cause he hasn't fought AJ or Fury yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Julian Williams, the way he dispatched Hurd was damn impressive

    Agree. I can see why though. He wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he up and got flattened by Charlo. Since then however, he's been most impressive.... and continues to fly under the radar.
    Yes, even in that loss he did well. Glad he won the title and hope he can be the top guy in the division.
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    Callum Smith all he does is WIN

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    Anyone trying top post over the last few hours . And Aaron Davis. Orlando Canizales on any long p4p list. The right hand of Junior Jones. Bert Cooper on a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Anyone trying top post over the last few hours . And Aaron Davis. Orlando Canizales on any long p4p list. The right hand of Junior Jones. Bert Cooper on a good day.
    'Superman' Davis good call!

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    panya pradabsri, moruti mthalane, giemel magramo, jose zepada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I’m not sure how good Berchelt is but I am sure he is underrated because he is simply ignored. Loma shouldn’t have been given a pass for not fighting him and Davis shouldn’t be given a pass now if he doesn’t fight him. He definitely belongs on this list.

    I say Ortiz, for some reason UK fans always talk about how old he is rather than how good he is.

    Julian Williams, the way he dispatched Hurd was damn impressive

    Thinking about this I quickly realize I don’t pay as close attention to all things boxing as I used to. I would have had a 20 person list in 2 minutes 8/9 years ago or farther back. I think the propaganda has burned me out. Should stop talking about the sport so much and just watch it.
    Julian Williams and King Kong Ortiz are both great calls. Williams was impressive in beating Hurd- the knockout loss will be difficult for him to shake in today’s day and age. Both of those guys are very skilled fighters, in my opinion. I would have said Porter but think people realized how good he is after the Spence fight.

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    If we are talking fighters from any era, the following come to mind for me:
    1. Ezzard Charles: Think fans of later years tend to underrate him because they think solo about his time at heavyweight, and don’t realize that was towards the ends his career and not his best weight. If you look at his time at 175, he is in the discussion for greatest light heavy ever- knocked out a prime Archie Moore! People forget that he was never the same after killing a man in the ring, and that prior to that he was a dominant/ferocious fighter.
    2. Fernando Vargas: People focus on the losses, especially to Tito and Oscar. Look at Fernando’s wins prior to Tito: Yori Boy Campas was a decent win, but his win vs a prime Winky Wright and dominance over Ike Quartey were very impressive. He was too brave for his own good vs Tito, and that may have ruined him.
    3. Reggie Johnson: Very skilled southpaw who lost a disputed decision to a prime James Toney ( after knocking him down). Most remember him as a light heavy and losing to Roy (Roy has a ridiculous one-two that knocks Reggie down in that fight), but that wasn’t his ideal weight and the guy was VERY good at 160.

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    Did you know that Archie Moore was not allowed to fight for the world title until he was 36 and when he did beat Joey Maxim (who had just beaten Sugar Ray Robinson) held the light heavyweight title for a record 10 years! Just imagine how great he would have been considered if he had the opportunity years earlier at the peak of his powers!
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    Can Xu reminds of Calzaghe a bit, especially when throwing combinations while moving backwards

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    Felix Valera.

    Extremely good chin and an entertainer. Sadly he doesn’t what seems to be proper coaching that could help him be more technical, so he’ll end up being a wasted talent.

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    James Buddy McGirt was a wonderful fighter.

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