Joshua v Ruiz 2

[erics44]

I only just realised ruiz is the security man where I work

[Master]

I only just realised ruiz is the security man where I work

Well ask him for a free ticket for the fight then.

[erics44]

He's put on a bit of weight mind

[Master]

He's put on a bit of weight mind

Buy him some more food and cakes. AJ will be happy.

[El Kabong]

This fight is intriguing based on the upset which happened last time. I mean AJ did look like he was going to cruise for a bit until he got hurt and he just never recovered. I think this fight will probably be a bit more boring, more of a chess match. I doubt after the beating he took that AJ would come in looking to squash Ruiz, BUT in my opinion he should do exactly that because Ruiz wouldn't expect it right out of the gate, Ruiz would probably expect AJ to fight smart. However AJ just throwing caution to the wind plays a little into Ruiz's hands as it'll open him up for counters.


Regardless of weigh in I'm going to say AJ by split decision.....split decision robbery because AJ will get knocked down a few times again, Ruiz might get knocked down once, but he's sturdier. It'll set up a rubber match because why the hell not.



What kind of odds can I get for an AJ split decision win?

[erics44]

This fight is intriguing based on the upset which happened last time. I mean AJ did look like he was going to cruise for a bit until he got hurt and he just never recovered. I think this fight will probably be a bit more boring, more of a chess match. I doubt after the beating he took that AJ would come in looking to squash Ruiz, BUT in my opinion he should do exactly that because Ruiz wouldn't expect it right out of the gate, Ruiz would probably expect AJ to fight smart. However AJ just throwing caution to the wind plays a little into Ruiz's hands as it'll open him up for counters.


Regardless of weigh in I'm going to say AJ by split decision.....split decision robbery because AJ will get knocked down a few times again, Ruiz might get knocked down once, but he's sturdier. It'll set up a rubber match because why the hell not.



What kind of odds can I get for an AJ split decision win?

You still talk loads of fuckin shit

What a bunch of nonesense

[El Kabong]

you still talk loads of fuckin shit

what a bunch of nonesense

Well I can't very well provide the entertainment and insight that you do can I?


How do you see the fight going? I mean there's plenty of ways it could play out, but I haven't seen you state how it'll play out. I've said it could be more of a chess match and it could, both fighters got hurt in the previous match and will likely seek to avoid that happening this time and so they'd fight in a more careful manner. On the other hand both fighters know they can hurt their opponent so perhaps they'll try that route and we'll have an early KO after both fighters let their hands fly (unlikely in this era of heavyweights). Ruiz might look to make AJ fear his power early on and try to crumble his confidence, AJ might look to remind Ruiz of his own power which sat him down before just to establish a little confidence.


The match is going to boil down to 2 things AJ's mental/psychological state, how did he cope with that loss/is his mind right now? And Ruiz's ego....did he train his balls off and get in a shape other than round or did he go all Buster Douglas and get fat and happy on the talkshow media circuit?


What I think will happen and what I'd like to happen are totally different. I'd like AJ to redeem himself with authority and then fight the winner of Wilder-Fury 2, but I think AJ is at a crossroads and I've not seen him handle adversity before he didn't handle it in the first fight that's for sure and IMO that'll stick with him.


It's intriguing though, kind of reminds me of Ingemar vs Floyd where either guy could get KO'd. AJ does have the tools to end it quickly and he should have accomplished that the first time.

[THE THIRD MAN]

WOW! Fatso had better hit the gym...Somebody needs to take a camel count, Ruiz may have eaten a few?

[Master]

Anthony Joshua’s trainer McCracken backed over concussion comments

Anthony Joshua’s trainer Rob McCracken will not face any disciplinary action for saying he allowed his heavyweight to keep fighting while concussed, after receiving the full backing of the British Boxing Board of Control.

The brain charity Headway has been deeply critical of McCracken’s admission that he “knew” Joshua was concussed against Andy Ruiz Jr yet kept “trying to get him through a few more rounds” – and accused him of failing in his duty of care for the former WBA, IBF and WBO world champion.

Related: Amnesty says Anthony Joshua is being duped over Saudi Arabia fight

McCracken has since clarified his remarks, saying he was “not a doctor and it may be that concussed is not the right term to have used”, and strenuously denied any wrongdoing.

“In professional boxing, fighters inevitably take punches and have difficult rounds and when they come back to the corner it is your job as a coach to make a quick assessment of the situation,” he said. “There is no formal concussional protocol where the doctor steps in to assess the boxer so you have to use your experience as a coach and your knowledge of the person to make a decision on whether you think they can recover.”

And the trainer has now been fully supported by Robert Smith, general secretary of the British Boxing Board of Control, who told the Guardian he saw nothing wrong with McCracken’s original comments.

“I don’t think Robert said anything out of sync,” Smith said. “Boxing is a combat sport. People do get hit and concussions do occur. Obviously the referee and trainers are there to look after the boxers to the best of their ability, and I can understand Robert’s comments completely. He is very experienced. I have no issues with Robert at all. He is very qualified. He is one of the best in the world.”

Smith also rejected claims by Headway that McCracken had failed in his duty of care and could have seriously damaged Joshua’s health by allowing him to carry on. “I trust Robert impeccably,” he said. “If any of his boxers were in that serious trouble he would have pulled them out, I am sure.”



When asked what advice he would give to a trainer who felt his fighter had a concussion, Smith replied: “You’ve got to see what you have got when a fighter sits down. Concussion in a boxing contest must occur on a regular basis – you are getting punched so there will be concussions – and people do recover. Joshua got knocked down by Wladimir Klitschko and recovered to win. People condemn us, but we take the safety of our boxers very seriously. Our medicals are very stringent. And we have a lot of things in place as regard to any boxer for any issue. Our job is to make it as safe as we possibly can but we can’t be 100% safe.”

Smith also defended boxing from criticism that it lacked the formal concussion protocols that are now commonplace in other collision sports. “In this country, if a doctor has any concerns as regards to the physical condition of a boxer he has the right to go up to the ring and tell the referee stop the fight,” he said.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/rob...171408537.html

[THE THIRD MAN]

If Ruiz wants more than 15 minutes of fame, somebody needs to tell him that 15 donuts a day is not good.

[Master]

Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz rematch: Kubrat Pulev expected to fight winner ahead of Oleksandr Usyk

Kubrat Pulev is likely to fight the winner of Andy Ruiz Jr vs Anthony Joshua II, rather than Oleksandr Usyk.

Pulev is the mandatory challenger for the IBF heavyweight title, while Usyk is the mandatory challenger for the WBO.

With both titles on the line in Ruiz and Joshua’s rematch in Saudi Arabia, it is unclear who the winner will be mandated to fight, but the Bulgarian’s promoters are confident it will be Pulev.

“Kubrat Pulev’s next fight will be for the IBF world heavyweight title,” his promoters Top Rank told Sky Sports.

“If the Joshua-Ruiz winner decides not to fight Pulev, his next fight will be for the vacant IBF title.”

Pulev has been beaten only once in 29 previous fights, and earned his position as mandatory challenger for the IBF title with victory over Hughie Fury.

It seems likely that one of the two titles will be vacated by the victor of Ruiz-Joshua, unless an agreement can be reached between the two organisations.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ant...082831849.html

[Ron Swanson]

The final press conference is strange with Eddie running it, asking the questions instead of a moderator.

Literally everything stacked against Ruiz, but in the end there’s a fight and he has the opportunity to beat the stacked deck.

Also, stadium built with slave labor in 2019. Yes, slave labor is still a thing. Bravo Eddie, bravo DAZN, supporting and promoting slavery. Let’s help make Saudi f’n Arabia and all its horrors accepted. There is no level too low for this scumbag. He’s going to make me respect Bob Arum

[Fatboxingfan]

There is, as fight time appraoches, a growing sentiment that this will be a Lennox Lewis/Hasim Rahman rematch BLOWOUT.

[Primo Carnera]

The final press conference is strange with Eddie running it, asking the questions instead of a moderator.

Literally everything stacked against Ruiz, but in the end there’s a fight and he has the opportunity to beat the stacked deck.

Also, stadium built with slave labor in 2019. Yes, slave labor is still a thing. Bravo Eddie, bravo DAZN, supporting and promoting slavery. Let’s help make Saudi f’n Arabia and all its horrors accepted. There is no level too low for this scumbag. He’s going to make me respect Bob Arum

Is there anyone you actually fucking like? It must be a barrel of laughs round yours at Christmas!

[Master]

Eddie Hearn offers hot air and hype but Joshua punches through the noise

Give Eddie Hearn his due. Not only has the promoter brought the world heavyweight championship to Saudi Arabia, he is also rapidly embracing its culture. In a country ranked 172 out of 180 in the world press freedom index - two places above Syria and seven ahead of North Korea – he did not bother to invite questions from journalists at the final press conference before Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz Jr meet in a rematch on Saturday.

Still, Hearn was able to glean a few nuggets by himself. That Ruiz is convinced his opponent will come in lighter and faster, in a bid to dance and entrance for 12 rounds. That Joshua has forewarned his audience that “I am not here to put on a show, I am here to win”. And finally – as every fighter on the bill kept reminding us – that the hospitality of the Saudis has been spectacular.

At one point Joshua even described Diriyah, on the outskirts of the capital Riyadh, as “the real Mecca of boxing”–which will raise eyebrows in Las Vegas to put it mildly. The press conference might have been held in a luxury box overlooking the city’s Formula E track, but there was little chance of Hearn doing a U-turn about coming to the Middle East. In fact the promoter doubled down on his decision, lavishing praise on his hosts as he predicted a “historic” night of boxing.

Addressing his highness Prince Khalid bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, he told him: “I can’t tell you how honoured I am to be in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. We were very close to going to Wales, then I got a message from Prince Khalid. I told him: ‘Don’t waste our time.’ But the passion this man had to bring the fight here was undeniable.

“Sometimes there was shock. Sometimes there was criticism. Sitting here today I can tell you it was a wonderful, wonderful decision.”

Then came a delightfully sycophantic question for the prince. “I know you as the one and only Big K,” said Hearn, beaming like the cat that has not only got the cream but is having it mainlined into his mouth. “How does it feel to be bringing the fight here?”



After a few words of happiness from the prince, Hearn was off again. “Just 10 weeks ago they embarked on getting a purpose-built stadium,” he said. “It is not just done – it is done as one of the most beautiful stadiums in the world. My stomach right now is full of butterflies. This is a new dawn for the sport of boxing.”

History will be the judge of that. But for now at least the big fight playbook is not so very different. At the traditional staredown Ruiz, wearing a New York Knicks top to remind him of where he ripped the WBA, IBF and WBO belts from Joshua’s grasp in June, started shouting: “And still! And still!”

Joshua’s camp replied: “And the new!” Then the boxers smiled and shook hands. At least we can say this with confidence: both men are a credit to their sport.

Earlier the Mexican-American had promised to be better prepared, before engaging in a minor act of clairvoyance. “It has been a long three months in camp and I am ready to rock and roll,” said Ruiz. “I know Joshua will come with a different gameplan, that he has lost weight and will try and box me around. But I am ready. I have been doing this since I was six years old. It has been a long rollercoaster, and there is no way I am going to let these belts go.”

Joshua, meanwhile, hinted at the single mindedness that has possessed him ever since losing his belts at Madison Square Garden. “As soon I got back from New York, I didn’t lose any heart, I didn’t lose any fire in my belly, and I went straight back to hitting the heavy bag at Finchley ABC,” he said. “There is no fear in my heart, no fear in my eyes, no fear in my mind.”

Tellingly, he also gave a warning to those expecting a repeat of their brawl in June. “I am not here to put on a show, I am here to win.”

And after a lot of hype and hot air, that truth carried all the power of one of his overhand rights.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/edd...181803378.html